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Blossomcrown (1 Viewer)
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Daniel Philippe
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lewis20126
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Thanks: "The evidence for marked divergence and reciprocal monophyly in mitochondrial and nuclear loci, in addition to climatic differentiation and morphological diagnosability, implies that each population could be considered a full species under several species concepts [67]–[71]."
Another one to look fo on the next trip!
cheers, alan
Richard Klim
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Peter Kovalik
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Proposal (654) to SACC
Elevate the subspecies Anthocephala floriceps floriceps and A. f. berlepschi to species rank
Elevate the subspecies Anthocephala floriceps floriceps and A. f. berlepschi to species rank
Peter Kovalik
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Richard Klim
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SACC proposal
Proposal passed, 21 Jan 2015, "but we need a proposal on E names" (Van Remsen).
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lewis20126
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Does anyone have any links to photographs of the Andean Blossomcrown? I'll try later. I hadn't realised this was a Peter's lump, rather than a "new" split.
cheers, alan
Richard Klim
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There's one in IBC, but unfortunately it doesn't show the tail tips.
Santa Marta and Tolima were proposed as names for the two forms in the comments for that proposal.
Niels
thomasdonegan
Former amateur ornithologist
Yes, those are much better English names. Some Colombia-linked people got SACC to adopt "Sierra Nevada Brush Finch" for an endemic Arremon of Santa Marta, with the obvious name being preoccupied by an Atlapetes. I am not sure other alternatives (e.g. "Colombian" in our ProAves checklist) are much better, but totally agree with Jaramillo's comments on "Sierra Nevada" being a bad name for a bird that occurs nowhere near the snow line. Also, it could be from Spain, California or all sorts of other places with their own Sierra Nevadas (snow mountains).
It was difficult to get very excited about this proposal either way. We will probably follow suit on the Colombia checklist, but it is another case of research groups linked to committee getting a pretty easy ride at SACC. It's not worth proposing other taxa in a similar situation (range disjunction, moderate differentiataion in plumage and DNA, no vocal study) for papers with a different authorship.
It was difficult to get very excited about this proposal either way. We will probably follow suit on the Colombia checklist, but it is another case of research groups linked to committee getting a pretty easy ride at SACC. It's not worth proposing other taxa in a similar situation (range disjunction, moderate differentiataion in plumage and DNA, no vocal study) for papers with a different authorship.
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Tom Schulenberg
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Photos of specimens of each (side by side) now posted on the SACC site at
http://www.museum.lsu.edu/~Remsen/SACCprop654.htm
thomasdonegan
Former amateur ornithologist
Wow! Stiles' data and the photos certainly make it easy to accept this split- most convincing!
Still a shame all this was not included in the paper which proposed the change and my comments above re SACC approaches for different groups' research papers remain... What happened to all those temporarily withdrawn Zimmerius proposals anyway?
Still a shame all this was not included in the paper which proposed the change and my comments above re SACC approaches for different groups' research papers remain... What happened to all those temporarily withdrawn Zimmerius proposals anyway?
lewis20126
Well-known member
Yes, slam-dunk. The Andean Blossomcrown is a rather fabulous thing on a good view. Thanks to TS for posting the updated link.
cheers, alan.
Richard Klim
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SACC proposal: English names
AOU-SACC Proposal #669 (Stiles, Feb 2015): English names of the Blossomcrowns.
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Richard Klim
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