My suggestions:
#1: apparently immature Spot-breasted Oriole (some wing pattern visible)
#2: Altamira Oriole (left) + 2 Spot-breasted Orioles (right)
#3: Spot-breasted Oriole (left) + apparently immature Altamira Oriole (right), but not sure on this one given the angle
For interest, what's the reason for going with Altamira in #2 &3?
As stated above, they were really suggestions, not real IDs as I usually try to present, so please take them with a pinch of salt...
#2 It seems to be a full adult, no? I went mainly on the black throated pattern, with neat edges. It also appeared a bit more robust than the others further to the back.
#3 not sure at all again (perhaps best left as Oriole sp....), based my suggestion again on throat pattern (bearing in mind Spot-breasted can show such a pattern) and apparently shorter bill (which I'm aware is slightly foreshortened from the angle).
This said, I'd like to hear also arguments to not make them Altamira, to cover all possibilities (in doubt I'd leave them unidentified). What do you think?
True, that was in my mind, but it didn't seem decisive for ID purposes.That they are in company with Spot-breasted?
Niels
As stated above, they were really suggestions, not real IDs as I usually try to present, so please take them with a pinch of salt...
#2 It seems to be a full adult, no? I went mainly on the black throated pattern, with neat edges. It also appeared a bit more robust than the others further to the back.
#3 not sure at all again (perhaps best left as Oriole sp....), based my suggestion again on throat pattern (bearing in mind Spot-breasted can show such a pattern) and apparently shorter bill (which I'm aware is slightly foreshortened from the angle).
This said, I'd like to hear also arguments to not make them Altamira, to cover all possibilities (in doubt I'd leave them unidentified). What do you think?
Agree with leaving them unidentified, given the wings are not visible. Unless there are more pics of the same birds from other angles... Jeff, would there be more images? I guess there probably aren't but...For 3) I wondered if it's spot-breasted as there's quite extensive grey at the bill base but I agree these are best oriole sp.
Jeff, would there be more images? I guess there probably aren't but...
Sorry, no more pictures... This was about 6 years ago and I wasn't a birder back then! But even a Spot-breasted Oriole will be a lifer for me!
I did notice that they seem a bit larger than the Spot-breasted Orioles. Any thoughts on that?...
This is a Altamira Oriole, right?
It looks good for one...