Latest IOC Diary Updates (3 Viewers)

[opisska]

May 24 Accept splits of African Green Bee-eater Merops viridissimus and Arabian Green Bee-eater Merops cyanophrys from Asian Green Bee-eater Merops orientalis.

I suppose the Egyptian ssp. cleopatra will go to Arabian? Looks like it's quite disconnected from the rest of the african population ... Shame though, would be nice to get a double gain

 

[TomDerutter]

If I remember correct cleopatra is part of the african species (in HBW)

 

[l_raty]

Agree with Tom.

Merops viridissimus (African Green Bee-eater) - Avibase

avibase.bsc-eoc.org

 

[opisska]

Nice!

 

[DDonsker]

If I remember correct cleopatra is part of the african species (in HBW)

That's right. Here's the breakdown of subspecies:

Species African Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops viridissimus Swainson, 1837 AF : Senegal to Egypt, Ethiopia and e Sudan AS Merops viridissimus is split from Merops orientalis based on significant differences in morphology and voice (Fry et al. 2020; HBW/Birdlife).
ssp M. v. viridissimus Swainson, 1837 Senegal to n, c Ethiopia
M. v. flavoviridis Niethammer, 1955 Chad to e Sudan SSP Add following Fry et al. (2020).
ssp M. v. cleopatra Nicoll, 1910 Nile Valley (Egypt) to n Sudan

Species Arabian Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops cyanophrys (Cabanis & Heine, 1860) EU : s Israel and Arabian Pen. AS Merops cyanophrys is split from Merops orientalis based on significant differences in morphology and voice (Fry et al. 2020; HBW/Birdlife).
ssp M. c. cyanophrys (Cabanis & Heine, 1860) s Israel and w, s Arabia
ssp M. c. muscatensis Sharpe, 1886 c, e Arabia

Species Asian Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops orientalis Latham, 1801 EU, OR : s Iran and s Asia to sc China and se Asia ENG Change English name of Merops orientalis from Green Bee-eater to Asian Green Bee-eater with splits of Merops viridissimus and Merops cyanophrys.
ssp M. o. beludschicus Neumann, 1910 s Iran to nw India
ssp M. o. orientalis Latham, 1801 w India e to Bangladesh
ssp M. o. ceylonicus Whistler, 1944 Sri Lanka
ssp M. o. ferrugeiceps Anderson, 1879 ne India to sc China and Indochina

 

[opisska]

Shame that muscatensis is not Asian, that would get us all the three in gWP

 

[MJB]

I suppose the Egyptian ssp. cleopatra will go to Arabian? Looks like it's quite disconnected from the rest of the african population ... Shame though, would be nice to get a double gain

I understand cleopatra will be a ssp of African. Edit: Ooops! I see David Donsker got in first!
MJB

 

[WACCOE]

That's right. Here's the breakdown of subspecies:

Species African Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops viridissimus Swainson, 1837 AF : Senegal to Egypt, Ethiopia and e Sudan AS Merops viridissimus is split from Merops orientalis based on significant differences in morphology and voice (Fry et al. 2020; HBW/Birdlife).
ssp M. v. viridissimus Swainson, 1837 Senegal to n, c Ethiopia
M. v. flavoviridis Niethammer, 1955 Chad to e Sudan SSP Add following Fry et al. (2020).
ssp M. v. cleopatra Nicoll, 1910 Nile Valley (Egypt) to n Sudan

Species Arabian Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops cyanophrys (Cabanis & Heine, 1860) EU : s Israel and Arabian Pen. AS Merops cyanophrys is split from Merops orientalis based on significant differences in morphology and voice (Fry et al. 2020; HBW/Birdlife).
ssp M. c. cyanophrys (Cabanis & Heine, 1860) s Israel and w, s Arabia
ssp M. c. muscatensis Sharpe, 1886 c, e Arabia

Species Asian Green Bee-eater Meropidae Merops orientalis Latham, 1801 EU, OR : s Iran and s Asia to sc China and se Asia ENG Change English name of Merops orientalis from Green Bee-eater to Asian Green Bee-eater with splits of Merops viridissimus and Merops cyanophrys.
ssp M. o. beludschicus Neumann, 1910 s Iran to nw India
ssp M. o. orientalis Latham, 1801 w India e to Bangladesh
ssp M. o. ceylonicus Whistler, 1944 Sri Lanka
ssp M. o. ferrugeiceps Anderson, 1879 ne India to sc China and Indochina

Nice two arm chair ticks.

 

[jobbuq]

Shame that muscatensis is not Asian, that would get us all the three in gWP

Isn't Iran part of the gWP? That would still get all three in the WP

 

[opisska]

Isn't Iran part of the gWP? That would still get all three in the WP

Sorry, by "us" I meant "me and my wife" - as we got the Omani ssp. but not the Irani one. For "us" in the sense as "we birders" your obviously right - even though most of the record in the Iran on eBird are relatively far to the east, in the part of Iran that's not the safest to visit nowadays, it should still be accessible.

 

[Andy Adcock]

May 24 Change English name of Idopsar brachyurus from Short-tailed Finch to Boulder Finch following SACC.


May 24 Change English names of Forpus crassirostris and Forpus xanthopterygius following SACC.

 

[viator]

June 2 Change English names of Swinhoe's Prinia and Deignan's Prinia to Striped Prinia and Brown Prinia, respectively.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

May 24 Change English name of Idopsar brachyurus from Short-tailed Finch to Boulder Finch following SACC.

Idiopsar 🙂

 

[njlarsen]

June 2 Change English names of Swinhoe's Prinia and Deignan's Prinia to Striped Prinia and Brown Prinia, respectively.

Which means that they went back to names that used to have very different content.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Is this the start of an assault on Asian eponyms?

 

[Acanthis]

June 2 Change English names of Swinhoe's Prinia and Deignan's Prinia to Striped Prinia and Brown Prinia, respectively.

Question!
Leaving the eponym debate aside, are these two birds any more striped or brown than their congenerics?

 

[Andy Adcock]

Question!
Leaving the eponym debate aside, are these two birds any more striped or brown than their congenerics?

Edit: This is the reason given for the renaming of the Prinias

'Change Englilsh (sic) name from Swinhoe's Prinia to Striped Prinia to reflect species epithet.'

'Revert English name back to Brown Prinia from Deignan's Prinia for this, the more widespread taxon, of the original split.'

 

[Acanthis]

Edit: This is the reason given for the renaming of the Prinias

'Change Englilsh (sic) name from Swinhoe's Prinia to Striped Prinia to reflect species epithet.'

'Revert English name back to Brown Prinia from Deignan's Prinia for this, the more widespread taxon, of the original split.'

OK, fair enough.

I hate blah names for birds, it's almost disrespectful.
It says a lot when you look at your list and your memory responds to the scientific name first, while the given name in your own language fades into the background

 

[Peter Boesman]

Did they change name with the acceptance?

Apr 17 Post proposed split of Nilgiri Imperial Pigeon from Mountain Imperial Pigeon.

See also: https://indianbirds.in/pdfs/InPress_Niranjana_Praveen_DuculaBadiaVocalisations.pdf

for the name change to Malabar Imperial Pigeon, and further vocal evidence for its treatment as a distinct species.

 

[Paul Clapham]

June 13 Post newly described species Satin Berrypecker on Updates/PS.

(I'm unclear about whether that's "proposed" or "approved" though -- it doesn't have the green background that approved splits/lumps have.)