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Binoculars - Hiking / mountains (1 Viewer)

Excellent post and pictorial as well!! You make some good points - what are the plans for the day? Day hikes for wildlife viewing are totally different from setting off into the alpine zone while carrying everything you need on your back. I'm a fanatic of light-weight in the backpack and would probably take no more than my 6x21mm Vixen monocular on a peak-bagging expedition.

Just a few days ago I did a 3-mile hike with my dog and I specifically took a backpack for the purpose of carrying my 10X42 EDG. Wow, did that ever pay off - a bald eagle landed in a tree near us, the first I'd ever seen in my hometown. So glad I wasn't using 25mm pocket binos. I also viewed waterfowl over a 2-mile lake and was glad for the extra horsepower.
 
I think I need a pair of versatile binoculars as I will mainly be using them in the mountains (on hikes and mountaineering ascents) for animal observation (mainly in the Alps and Pyrenees since I live in France).

I spotted two Swarovski models, the CL Pocket 8x25 and the CL Companion 8x30 B. They will therefore have a difference in brightness but will it be so obvious and above all will this difference in brightness be worth the difference in weight (150 g.).

Do you have any advice based on your experience?
Welcome to the forum. It sounds like you have some great adventures planned in the mountains. I also enjoy being where it is steep and deep, but not as extreme as the Alps and Pyrenees!

I have zero experience with the CL 8x30 but I owned the CL 8x25 for awhile. I bought the CL 8x25 for the same reason that you are considering it, basically weight for rugged terrain plus perceived quality.

The CL 8x25 that I had was pretty unremarkable to me, especially given the price. I thought that it was a bit sharper than a friend's SLC 8x30 (second to last version, I believe, with very noticeable yellow bias) but noticeably dimmer in low light. I also compared those two, the SLC 8x30 and CL 8x25, to another friend's Zeiss Terra 8x25 and I thought that the Terra was a better value overall even though it was a step behind the other two in terms of optics. For what it's worth, I also owned the last version of the SLC 8x30 and was never really impressed with that model. But I sold it several years before I compared the others. Just throwing that out there as I was never impressed with the SLC 8x30 and may have some bias against that design.

The CL seemed a bit sharper than the other two while the SLC was easier to use (better eyecups and less finicky for eye position it seemed). The Terra was nice to hold compared CL with better exterior grip, while the SLC was by far the most stable maybe due to the extra mass and eyecups that fit my head better. The Terra was not as sharp to the edges as the CL, but in normal use I didn't notice it.

I could probably type more in terms of the comparison that I did, but in the end I sold the CL 8x25 and kept an inexpensive 10x25 that I bought after the three-binocular shootout above. I compared those two models for weeks, if I recall correctly. There was nothing that I could see with the CL at 5x the price that I couldn't with the cheap 10x. And at last light, they were dead even. I expected the CL 8x25 to be a bit brighter than the 10x25 but with my middle-age eyes there was no difference. Both were worse at sunrise and sunset than I expected.

In regards to low light, I don't know what animals you are wanting to view, but if they are ungulates that are more active in low light then I don't know that an 8x in 25mm or 30/32/33mm format would be my choice, at least with my eyes and experience. I also know that weight is a concern, but it was really surprising how much more stable the 8x30 was compared to the 8x25 models. And the comparisons were done without physical exertion involved!

All that stated, I really enjoy viewing animals for an extended period of time rather than simply identifying them or checking them off of a list. To me, I value a really nice image. So although weight is something important on the spec sheet, low values might be detrimental to the viewing experience. But that is just me, and I'm not climbing the Alps!

Last, I only mention the SLC and Terra as examples against the CL. I am not suggesting that you consider those other two per se. My main points being that the CL didn't seem like a good value for my needs, and slightly larger binocular was much easier to use.

Jason
 
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Five years ago I had a very serious heart attack with broken heart (papillary muscle and mitral valve) but I hike in the central Alps with a Swarovski 10X42, Nikon D800E, three metal lenses, tripod and so on. I'm trying to save weight by buying lighter clothes, boots and walking poles, with little success so far...
 

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Five years ago I had a very serious heart attack with broken heart (papillary muscle and mitral valve) but I hike in the central Alps with a Swarovski 10X42, Nikon D800E, three metal lenses, tripod and so on. I'm trying to save weight by buying lighter clothes, boots and walking poles, with little success so far...
Live and learn, I had never heard of the papillary muscles.

Thank you for allowing me to educate myself. (a never ending process, I hope)
 
Five years ago I had a very serious heart attack with broken heart (papillary muscle and mitral valve) but I hike in the central Alps with a Swarovski 10X42, Nikon D800E, three metal lenses, tripod and so on. I'm trying to save weight by buying lighter clothes, boots and walking poles, with little success so far...
Well congratulations on your successful recovery. Mountain hiking is very good for the heart, I'm sure it's stronger now. I wish I lived closer to the mountains, I'm on the coast and a 1-hour drive from a vertical rise of 300m or higher. I walk up and down small hills repeatedly to get more exercise.

Reading these forums, I'm starting to realize I fall into the group of observers that favor a minimum size of 42mm binoculars. I've seen several different people stating that preference now. It's heavier but there is a higher level of excitement with larger optics, that's the best way to explain it. Almost like there is an aura of magical power around the larger instrument.
 
Hello !

I am looking for my first pair of binoculars and I hesitate between two models.

I think I need a pair of versatile binoculars as I will mainly be using them in the mountains (on hikes and mountaineering ascents) for animal observation (mainly in the Alps and Pyrenees since I live in France). I will also use them in static mode during breaks or during bivouac but the weight will have to remain contained.

I spotted two Swarovski models, the CL Pocket 8x25 and the CL Companion 8x30 B. They will therefore have a difference in brightness but will it be so obvious and above all will this difference in brightness be worth the difference in weight (150 g.). With the Companion, I'm afraid to use them less because they're less easy to carry (bigger pouch and I don't know if I can attach the pouch to the belt, seems better with the CL Pocket).

Do you have any advice based on your experience?

Many thanks !
I have put a mint condition CL8x25's in the classified section.
You could try them, and if you don't get on with them, move them on for little, or no loss.
They are optically top of their game, and I can't believe you wouldn't be amazed by them.

Forget that.... they've just sold anyway!!
 
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Hello,

First, I would like to thank you all for your advices and your messages !

I was able to try many pairs of binoculars, many of which have been mentioned here. I was also able to spend a lot of time observing through a friend's 10x25 UV and ended up concluding that this was the most suitable pair for my needs (lightness and robustness) while being particularly suitable for me. So of course its FOV is not the widest for a pair of 10x25 but after many tests in the field, it suits me perfectly !

So I received my pair yesterday and they are perfect except for one detail which I don't know the importance for the durability of the armour. There is a slight bump/bubble on the armor under the pair (under the text "made by Leica in Portugal"). Do you know if this could be a problem over time (photos attached) ?
 

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There is a slight bump/bubble on the armor…
I was expecting something much worse but this looks completely ignorable. Now I’m curious if I’ve got any small bumps like that on any of my Ultravids, though it won’t concern me at all if I find any like that. You’ll probably completely forget about it after a very short time.
 
Hello,

First, I would like to thank you all for your advices and your messages !

I was able to try many pairs of binoculars, many of which have been mentioned here. I was also able to spend a lot of time observing through a friend's 10x25 UV and ended up concluding that this was the most suitable pair for my needs (lightness and robustness) while being particularly suitable for me. So of course its FOV is not the widest for a pair of 10x25 but after many tests in the field, it suits me perfectly !

So I received my pair yesterday and they are perfect except for one detail which I don't know the importance for the durability of the armour. There is a slight bump/bubble on the armor under the pair (under the text "made by Leica in Portugal"). Do you know if this could be a problem over time (photos attached) ?
Your binocular is probably pregnant. Sorry bad joke.

Don’t worry about this detail. It’s nothing. I have the UV 10x25 myself and it’s a great little powerhouse!!
Enjoy it in good health. I did a lot of hiking with them and always kept it around my neck in one of my shirt pockets. It’s soo light that you will not notice it’s there. Good choice.
 
There is a slight bump/bubble on the armor under the pair
If you can feel the bump with your thumb in use, you should exchange it. Beyond that, for $800 I think one could expect better than this, but it's entirely up to you. Since you're bothered enough to ask, I see no reason not to exchange it while you can.

Assuming this is just a bit of extra material from molding the rubber skin, I'd be sorely tempted to use a very sharp thin blade to level it off. But that's only because I like sharp blades, and wouldn't have the sense to just exchange it.
 
...I'd be sorely tempted to use a very sharp thin blade to level it off.
This is exactly what I was thinking as I read the first part of your post. Don't disagree with the idea of getting an exchange, but most likely would not since I have a razor blade and wouldn't be wanting to part with the binocular either, especiallly over something so much smaller than the lettering right beside it.
 
This is exactly what I was thinking as I read the first part of your post. Don't disagree with the idea of getting an exchange, but most likely would not since I have a razor blade and wouldn't be wanting to part with the binocular either, especiallly over something so much smaller than the lettering right beside it.
The razor blade has to be very sharp and very thin. I would use a scalpel knife.
 
If it was just the binoculars I might carry my 8x42 Ultravids, but more likely my new 7x35 Trinovids, but here in the northern Rockies, my pack is full of extra clothing, weather can change in an instant, some survival gear and lunch, so small lighter the better.

I just bought a pair of Curio 7x21s that seem perfect for that.
 
Hello !

I am looking for my first pair of binoculars and I hesitate between two models.

I think I need a pair of versatile binoculars as I will mainly be using them in the mountains (on hikes and mountaineering ascents) for animal observation (mainly in the Alps and Pyrenees since I live in France). I will also use them in static mode during breaks or during bivouac but the weight will have to remain contained.

I spotted two Swarovski models, the CL Pocket 8x25 and the CL Companion 8x30 B. They will therefore have a difference in brightness but will it be so obvious and above all will this difference in brightness be worth the difference in weight (150 g.). With the Companion, I'm afraid to use them less because they're less easy to carry (bigger pouch and I don't know if I can attach the pouch to the belt, seems better with the CL Pocket).

Do you have any advice based on your experience?

Many thanks !

Hello !

I am looking for my first pair of binoculars and I hesitate between two models.

I think I need a pair of versatile binoculars as I will mainly be using them in the mountains (on hikes and mountaineering ascents) for animal observation (mainly in the Alps and Pyrenees since I live in France). I will also use them in static mode during breaks or during bivouac but the weight will have to remain contained.

I spotted two Swarovski models, the CL Pocket 8x25 and the CL Companion 8x30 B. They will therefore have a difference in brightness but will it be so obvious and above all will this difference in brightness be worth the difference in weight (150 g.). With the Companion, I'm afraid to use them less because they're less easy to carry (bigger pouch and I don't know if I can attach the pouch to the belt, seems better with the CL Pocket).

Do you have any advice based on your experience?

Many thanks !
My solution on this similar problem, the cl pocket. Every other binocular is big. I use it while hiking, fly fishing, simple town walks, climbing even. If weight is not a problem I go for my other binocular. The things I've been able to look at because now I have a binocular with me all the time, and a mighty fine one too, is all because that cl pocket is..... pocketable. And such a great view and easy handling. Easy choice!!
 
Old thread, but I have a two-cent opinion, namely: best binoculars for serious hiking are no binoculars. I recently hiked across Snowdonia (mountains in Wales) with tent on my back. Every 100g counts, and 600 or 700g of binocular was too many grams.

There's something very beautiful about birding with just your own eyes and ears. Most of the time, in your own region, you don't really need them: I had various close-up sightings of Ring Ouzel and Pied Flycatcher, more distant but easily identifiable Redstarts in flight, and baby Great Spotted Woodpeckers sticking their head out of the hole to be fed. Cuckoos heard very frequently, they're remarkably common there. I don't think I missed anything. Was wonderful.

Of course, if it had been Nepal or Costa Rica, I'd have carried those 700 extra grams and another 700g-ish of field guide. But if you're doing 15 or 20 miles a day with ups and downs and camping pack, that's not a decision to be taken lightly!
 
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