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Where premium quality meets exceptional value. ZEISS Conquest HDX.

Show us your "vintage" and classic binos (1 Viewer)

Thank you for your reply and advice. Following your instructions the view is excellent and I remain pleasantly surprised at the clarity and sharpness from what must be a 40 year old Zeiss. We've had a terrible spring here in Switzerland, with rain every day for over a month, and even in low light these compare well to my Terra Eds, but obviously not up there with the Victory or Conquest models. Nevertheless, great to pop in a rucksack when out on a hike, and to repeat very rugged. Thank you again for your advice.
Hello Acorn,

You are quite welcome. I think the binocular may be well over 40 years old. Contact Zeiss for the age.

For some reason, the field of view is not as wide as the contemporary Zeiss centre focus model

Stay safe,
Arthur
 
Acorndrive,
The Zeiss Safari 8x30: 566 g, eyerelief 15 mm, close focus 5 m, FOV 120m/1000m, light transmission 75-77%, price around 1299 euro
Nikon 8x30 military GA, made an almost identical one: 665 g, eyerelief 13 mm, close focus 9 m, FOV 131m/1000m, light transmission 76-78%, price ?
Gijs van Ginkel
 
Another Bushnell FPO Rangemaster, this one I believe is the second generation and the first ones with BaK4. Phenomenal image, a more yellow tone than the following Silver line version posted earlier. All mechanicals are butter smooth. It really is a shame nothing is made like these anymore.
 

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Those Bushnells are sweet! thank god I don't like wide-field :) I just got my 7x35 Nikon E back from Suddarth - wow! Total binocular ecstasy. They do a phenomenal job. Focuser and hinge now silky smooth like a new Zeiss SF.

I'm starting to use them for serious birding with a padded Swaro neckstrap - only 19 ounces. The view of the bobolinks on yesterday's dog walk was crystal clear. I'm so happy to have these instead of the 8x30 MHG's I was considering for my compact bino. They're working on my 7x35 E-C version as we speak.
 
Time to re-activate this thread as I received a lovely little porro yesterday. A "Carton" 6x18 wide angle (11°) with really nice bodywork and interesting design - the diopter is on the left objective barrel instead of the right ocular. Close focus is about 1.5m (of course parallax comes into play at such a close distance). Optics are really nice and sharp (prisms slightly hazy though but no fungus). And it looks gorgeous IMHO. It's labeled J-B142/J-E10 - so assembly by Subaru Kogaku Kikai and metalwork by Toko Seiki.
I love these tiny porros.
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Time to re-activate this thread as I received a lovely little porro yesterday. A "Carton" 6x18 wide angle (11°) with really nice bodywork and interesting design - the diopter is on the left objective barrel instead of the right ocular. Close focus is about 1.5m (of course parallax comes into play at such a close distance). Optics are really nice and sharp (prisms slightly hazy though but no fungus). And it looks gorgeous IMHO. It's labeled J-B142/J-E10 - so assembly by Subaru Kogaku Kikai and metalwork by Toko Seiki.
I love these tiny porros.
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Interesting design looks very cool!
 
Another Bushnell FPO Rangemaster, this one I believe is the second generation and the first ones with BaK4. Phenomenal image, a more yellow tone than the following Silver line version posted earlier. All mechanicals are butter smooth. It really is a shame nothing is made like these anymore.
I’m reaching far into a failing memory for this, but I have a recollection of a similar glass, which I believe was labeled somehow as Sears.

I know I carried it around Europe, and had great views of architecture and cathedral rose windows. (unless I’m mixing it up with another one)

I left it outside one night, and moisture did it in.
 
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I’m reaching far into a failing memory for this, but I have a recollection of a similar glass, which I believe was labeled somehow as Sears.

I know I carried it around Europe, and had great views of architecture and cathedral rose windows.

I left it outside one night, and moisture did it in.
Does this look familiar? Sears 6287 7x35 12.5 (J-B146), these were one of the top of the line for the genre.
 

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sears discoverer 6287- also cardinal 287 BaK4 12.5 deg fov for all intents, no eye relief (IMO)! I'd take a nice rangemaster at 10 deg fov (with small amount of usable ER ) any day despite the "narrower field"
 
sears discoverer 6287- also cardinal 287 BaK4 12.5 deg fov for all intents, no eye relief (IMO)! I'd take a nice rangemaster at 10 deg fov (with small amount of usable ER ) any day despite the "narrower field"
Totally agree on the eye relief, the Sears and Cardinal are around 10mm, typical of most of the ultra wide angle options of the 7x35’s. The Bushnell 10° Rangemaster, FPO version has about 14mm, very comfortable and I can even use them with certain sunglasses. The Kowa version is also very close.
 

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I'm glad you mentioned the Kowa prominar 10Deg fov despite my example (have 2!) having BK7 prisms (low index , supposed to be less contrast- not even noticed by me!) is one of my favorites for one simple reason. I wear eyeglasses, the eyecups unscrew and the eyelens of the EP's is just a tad below the surface of the eyepiece edge- allowing close to full field. It seems to be a feature for many of the early Kowa binoculars. Whether it turned out that way by coincidence or insightful planning, seem to be useful aspect for anyone using eyeglass correction. If I was unaware of the rangemaster, and had the prominar, id be happy as can be. Fortunately I have both.. Regards, Pat
 
I'm glad you mentioned the Kowa prominar 10Deg fov despite my example (have 2!) having BK7 prisms (low index , supposed to be less contrast- not even noticed by me!) is one of my favorites for one simple reason. I wear eyeglasses, the eyecups unscrew and the eyelens of the EP's is just a tad below the surface of the eyepiece edge- allowing close to full field. It seems to be a feature for many of the early Kowa binoculars. Whether it turned out that way by coincidence or insightful planning, seem to be useful aspect for anyone using eyeglass correction. If I was unaware of the rangemaster, and had the prominar, id be happy as can be. Fortunately I have both.. Regards, Pat
Pat, I was referring to the Kowa Rangemaster (I believe 1960-62). But I do believe the Kowa Prominar has the same eye relief as the Kowa Rangemaster, about 14mm. All the eyecups do unscrew. I’ll compare them over the weekend just for curiosity. My Prominar is a BaK4 version and is very similar to the K Rangemaster.

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4, Kowa Rangemaster on left and Bushnell Rangemaster FPO silver line on the right.
5, Kowa Rangemaster.
 

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Pat, I was referring to the Kowa Rangemaster (I believe 1960-62). But I do believe the Kowa Prominar has the same eye relief as the Kowa Rangemaster, about 14mm. All the eyecups do unscrew. I’ll compare them over the weekend just for curiosity. My Prominar is a BaK4 version and is very similar to the K Rangemaster.

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1-3, Kowa Prominar.
4, Kowa Rangemaster on left and Bushnell Rangemaster FPO silver line on the right.
5, Kowa Rangemaster.
Beautiful, the look like new!
 
I used my Binuxit 8x30 and Zeiss West 10x50 over the weekend, getting to see some interesting activity from my local hobbies with the latter. Both fine devices with excellent fields of view and would have been top tier products in their day but ... coming from my regular 10x42 SE the distortion pattern/field curvature (whatever it was) really stood out, especially in the first 30 minutes or so. The lack of edge sharpness was very apparent and neither seemed to have the SE's clarity, especially the 10x50 with its somewhat yellow colour cast. I know both those binoculars pretty well, have had great days with them in the past, and still like them but ... I couldn't help but feel dissatisfied.

Removing my glasses to use them also made me feel that when relying on my own ability to see, unassisted by my glasses, every fault in my vision seemed to show up. I couldn't zero in the left barrel of the Binuxit on distant targets thanks to the astigmatism in my left eye - I had to get it zeroed in on a closer target, set the diopter on the right barrel accordingly, then go back to (thankfully using both eyes corrects a lot of my left eye astigmatism). There will probably come a time when I simply can't use them, either because of astigmatism or because the focus beyond infinity will no longer be enough.

But funnily enough... after an hour or two of humming and hawing, my eyes and brain seemed to adjust back to them. Everything slowly "settled", the distortion seemed to even out, I got used to accommodating to the areas near the edges, so that I ended up being a lot happier with them at the end that at the beginning. Coming from the narrow FOV SE the wide fields of view that the old classics provide definitely stand out. I could detect the small specks of distant swifts well enough to be confident I would see (and did see) the targets I was looking for, even if the view seemed to be (and no doubt was) somewhat less bright and clear. I have noticed before there is a time of day in the afternoon when what you see through the 10x50 really looks great, extremely detailed and perfect. And the 8x30 is just a pleasure to use - light, handy, it has a greater impression of feeling as though it's not there than anything else I have.

They're not perfect (though what is, except a NL? ... lol). But there's a real charm to these binoculars from the past. I'll regret the day I can no longer use them.
 
Accompanied my mother on her 4,000 steps late afternoon, steering her towards a bird feeder hung up in front of a third storey window of a nearby apartment block (adult and juvenile Eurasian goldfinches) and one of the regular hangouts of my local peregrine pair (unfortunately not in attendance). I took the Zeiss West 8x30B (first edition), only a little younger than her, which both of us used, the long eye relief atypical of old 8x30 porros making this easy. Lovely little thing, so solid and beautifully made, and more than up to the job on a bright afternoon at the beginning of summer, for undemanding tasks.
 

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