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l_raty said:
IOW, the recent move by IOC is arguably a switch from names that were in prevailing use among world checklists (IOC + H&M were using them, while the other two checklists each used their own, distinct flavour of non-eponymous names), to the non-eponymous variants adopted a year earlier by Clements, which have basically no history of usage...
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Thanks for this.
 
Andy Adcock said:
Verreaux's and Szechenyi's MP, are still in use by the IOC, let's see how long for.
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Verreaux's Monal-PartridgeTetraophasis obscurusChestnut-throated Monal-PartridgeChange English name of Tetraophasis obscurus from Verreaux's Monal-Partridge to Chestnut-throated Monal-Partridge to align with other major world bird liists.
Szechenyi's Monal-PartridgeTetraophasis szechenyiiBuff-throated Monal-PartridgeChange English name of Tetraophasis szechenyii from Szechenyi's Monal-Partridge to Buff-throated Monal-Partridge to align with other major world bird liists.
 
Paul Clapham said:
Verreaux's Monal-PartridgeTetraophasis obscurusChestnut-throated Monal-PartridgeChange English name of Tetraophasis obscurus from Verreaux's Monal-Partridge to Chestnut-throated Monal-Partridge to align with other major world bird liists.
Szechenyi's Monal-PartridgeTetraophasis szechenyiiBuff-throated Monal-PartridgeChange English name of Tetraophasis szechenyii from Szechenyi's Monal-Partridge to Buff-throated Monal-Partridge to align with other major world bird liists.
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Damn it, this is clearly deliberate and filtering through from those bloody, woke Americans, too much of a coincidence,
 
Swindon Addick said:
A lot of the eponyms that people are whining about losing commemorate the person who funded the expedition that discovered the bird, rather than the scientist who wrote the paper that described it. So basically that's exactly where the original names came from.

Doubtless someone will be demanding that the Facebook Partridge be renamed the Buff-throated Partridge, on the ridiculous grounds that it has a buff-coloured throat. And then where will be be?
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So what, it was their money, their philanthropy that allowed the scientists to go out on expeditions.

For the Partridges above, the two guys were naturalist and explorer respectivelly.
 
Approximately 12 birds, excluding names being changed because of splits, are getting common names changes, of which only 4 involve loss of eponyms. The Monal-Partridge name changes are as politically motivated as changing Island Swiftlet to Caroline Swiftlet.
 
Mysticete said:
Approximately 12 birds, excluding names being changed because of splits, are getting common names changes, of which only 4 involve loss of eponyms. The Monal-Partridge name changes are as politically motivated as changing Island Swiftlet to Caroline Swiftlet.
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And you can state this so emphatically, how?
 
Mysticete said:
as politically motivated as changing Island Swiftlet to Caroline Swiftlet.
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Why would this be politically motivated?

IOC says "Change English name of Aerodramus inquietus from Island Swiftlet to Caroline Swiftlet for better clarity and to align with similarly constructed names."

Seems reasonable since "Island" is very uninformative compared to "Caroline" which tells that it occurs on the Caroline Islands.
 
My more sensible comment about the Monal-Partridges is that I have only visited their range once; I saw one, but the other was our only significant dip (although thinking about it now, we did hear it!). I was using the eponyms; if I had been using the colour names I suspect I might have a clearer memory of which is which, so in this case I am happy for the names to be rationalised.
 
Andy Adcock said:
Damn it, this is clearly deliberate and filtering through from those bloody, woke Americans, too much of a coincidence,
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Andy and all,

Just to make it perfectly clear, there is nothing exclusively "American" about these names. The editors of the IOC-WBL (granted Americans) were not the creators of the adjectives we have chosen to use for these two species. Rather, those were introduced by BirdLife International (as Chestnut-throated and Buff Throated Partridge) years ago (for example see del Hoyo & Collar 2014). As part of the global checklist initiative, we all considered them to be preferable adjectives to use for these two species. They are simply clearer and more memorable than are the eponyms.
 
Markus Lagerqvist said:
Mar 20 Post lump of Dyaul Flycatcher with Velvet Flycatcher (Myiagra eichhorni).
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This is another complex one (and the usual caveats apply as to how reliable my grasp of the issues is compared to others on here): originally there was one species, Myiagra hebetior, known as Velvet Flycatcher. Three subspecies, M. h. hebetior, M. h. eichhorni and M. h. cervinicolor. After two rounds of changes, we now have a monotypic species Myiagra hebetior which is known as Mussau Flycatcher and a Velvet Flycatcher Myiagra eichhorni which has M. e. cervinicolor as a subspecies. So the original scientific name sits with one taxon and the original English one with the other two.
 
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