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Test Report: Nikon Monarch M7 8x30 vs. Pentax AD 7x32 ED Binoculars (1 Viewer)

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I spent 6+ hours over several sessions in my usual amazing testing environment comparing the Nikon Monarch M7 8x30 binoculars vs. the Pentax AD 7x32 ED binoculars side-to-side.

(Non-)disclaimer: I paid for both models myself and have no affiliation with any manufacturers or dealers.

The Pentax is larger, being about 15 mm longer and about the size of a Zeiss Victory T* FL x32.

Weights with included objective and eyepiece covers: 502 g for the Nikon vs 634 g for the Pentax.

The eyepiece covers for the Pentax fit loosely. Perhaps they are shared with larger models. I discovered that eyepiece covers from GPO fit the Pentax perfectly.

Both binoculars focus clockwise-to-infinity. Both focused very smoothly with no detectable backlash in the focus mechanisms. The focus wheel of the Pentax turns easier, but I don't have a preference.

Both binoculars are seem quite bright and display excellent contrast. However, unlike the 10x binoculars which I recently compared which were very similar optically, these two models are very different optically.

The apparent field through the Nikon is very wide and immersive, and for that reason, feels modern. The apparent field of the view in the Pentax is substantially smaller and seems antiquated in comparison.

However, despite the Nikon having a wider apparent and actual field of view, the field of the view through the Pentax is more usable. With the Pentax, you can easily direct your gaze to the edge of the field of view, whereas with the Nikon, you have to strain your eyes (and possibly reposition your head) to try to see to the edge of the field.

Both binoculars exhibit field curvature, but the lower magnification of the Pentax usually allows more of the field to be in focus because of the greater depth of field that lower magnification allows. If you predominately use your binoculars for scanning, I might recommend the Pentax over the Nikon.

When trying to view a single subject, objects viewed through the Nikon feel substantially larger, due to the 8x vs. 7x magnification and wider apparent field of view. (Also the actual magnification of the Pentax could be slightly less than the 7x designation, but that is just conjecture on my part.)

Chromatic aberration in both models is very well controlled (and much, much less than that of the 10x binoculars I recently evaluated). it is not really delectable until you get about 30% from center, and I rarely noticed it at all in real-world use.

Veiling glare through the Nikon is more of an issue than with the Pentax. But it can often be worked around by repositioning one's eyes upward. Also it occurred to me that I can 3D print tubular objective covers in TPU that might substantially reduce glare for the Nikon under most conditions. They would make the binocular longer, but would only weigh a few grams.

In the Pentax, there is a circular reflection from the barrels around the field of view which is more evident than in the Nikon because the edge of the field of view is more within one's field of vision. It is somewhat distracting, but doesn't interfere with the view substantially.
 
I had both the Pentax AD 7x32 ED and the Nikon M7 8x30 and I pretty much agree with your review. I liked the Nikon considerably more because of the bigger AFOV versus the smaller AFOV of the Pentax, which is a given with most 7x binoculars. Likewise, I am not sure what you are saying about the Pentax's FOV being more usable. I didn't experience that myself, but maybe it is because of the bigger EP, giving you more room to move your eyes around. The tubular objective covers for the Nikon would have to be really long to make any difference in veiling glare because the glare is probably coming from the oculars.
 
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With the Nikon, if I attempt to view the edge of the field without adjusting my head, it blacks out.

The Pentax's FOV is more usable for two reasons: It is within one's vision (whereas with the Nikon I have to move my head to see the edge of the FOV) and the lower magnification affords greater depth-of-field.

In 2023, you wrote about the Pentax: "What surprised me is the FOV is sharp right to the edge, almost like a Swarovski EL."

I have no experience with a Swarovski EL, but the first part of your statement is just not true at all. The field curvature of both the Pentax and the Nikon is significant, so both are not sharp when you get too far from the center.

My opinion is that both binoculars are excellent tools though. If you prioritize light weight and compactness, the Nikon is the winner. If you are going to be scanning for movement, the Pentax has the advantage.

Nikon should come out with a 6x, 6.5x, or 7x magnification version of the M7.
 
With the Nikon, if I attempt to view the edge of the field without adjusting my head, it blacks out.

The Pentax's FOV is more usable for two reasons: It is within one's vision (whereas with the Nikon I have to move my head to see the edge of the FOV) and the lower magnification affords greater depth-of-field.

In 2023, you wrote about the Pentax: "What surprised me is the FOV is sharp right to the edge, almost like a Swarovski EL."

I have no experience with a Swarovski EL, but the first part of your statement is just not true at all. The field curvature of both the Pentax and the Nikon is significant, so both are not sharp when you get too far from the center.

My opinion is that both binoculars are excellent tools though. If you prioritize light weight and compactness, the Nikon is the winner. If you are going to be scanning for movement, the Pentax has the advantage.

Nikon should come out with a 6x, 6.5x, or 7x magnification version of the M7.
I agree it would be nice if Nikon made a 6x, 6.5x or 7x in the M7 8x30. I disagree on the scanning for movement. The Pentax only has a 410 foot FOV, whereas, the Nikon has a 435 foot FOV. With a bigger FOV, I find I can scan greater areas quicker and find and follow birds easier, even if it is a 8x. The reason I really dislike the Pentax is the small AFOV. The 54.6 degree FOV of the Pentax just don't cut it for me. I like the 66.4 degree AFOV of the Nikon much better because for me AFOV is what gives me the WOW factor in binoculars. I don't have a problem with 7x binoculars, in fact I like the better DOF and steadiness, but I don't like the fact that very few of them have an AFOV above 60 degrees, which is my minimum for WOW factor. The only 7x binocular that has a pretty big AFOV is the Zeiss FL 7x42, which has an 8.6 degree FOV and a AFOV of 60.2.
 
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I am interested in the useable eye relief of Pentax 7x32 compared to the Nikon.
How well does it work with eyeglasses?
 
Dennis, I stand by my observations. I spent hours very carefully comparing the 2 models side-by-side. I also still own both binoculars and are not planning on selling them. But there are two things that I do agree with you with: 1. The Nikon does have a certain wow factor because of the large AFOV and 2, I should investigate the source of the glare. By the way, I have designed lens shades, but I haven't 3D printed them yet.

Swepat: Sorry, I don't know. I don't wear eyeglasses.
 
Dennis, I stand by my observations. I spent hours very carefully comparing the 2 models side-by-side. I also still own both binoculars and are not planning on selling them. But there are two things that I do agree with you with: 1. The Nikon does have a certain wow factor because of the large AFOV and 2, I should investigate the source of the glare. By the way, I have designed lens shades, but I haven't 3D printed them yet.

Swepat: Sorry, I don't know. I don't wear eyeglasses.
I don't think objective lens shades will help. They would have to be too long to stop glare coming in from the objective. The glare is probably coming in through your ocular lens. A Bino Bandit might help with glare at the ocular.

 
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This morning I did additional side-by-side testing of the Nikon and the Pentax, this time concentrating on glare issues.

Conclusion: The Nikon is definitely substantially more prone to veiling glare than the Pentax when viewing subjects towards the sun. The glare is caused by light entering through the objectives, though the objectives do not need to be in direct sunlight for it to occur.
 
This morning I did additional side-by-side testing of the Nikon and the Pentax, this time concentrating on glare issues.

Conclusion: The Nikon is definitely substantially more prone to veiling glare than the Pentax when viewing subjects towards the sun. The glare is caused by light entering through the objectives, though the objectives do not need to be in direct sunlight for it to occur.
I liked the Monarch M7 8x30's, and if it wasn't for the glare, I would have kept them. Yesterday, I tried the M7 8x42's, which handled the glare much better but weren't as clear edge to edge as the M7 8x30's. I wonder how much better MHG versions are considering they cost twice as much.
 
I like the Pentax 7x32 overall, one of the best (and only ..) high quality 7x on the market. What do you think, is it possible that the Pentax field of view is less than listed?

I never tried an M7 so cannot comment, but I am surprised that glare control is better on the Pentax. Glare seemed to be the weak spot for me when using the Pentax and it leads to finicky replacement.

My pair seems to be sharp to almost the very edge however, along the way there is some loss/distortion maybe 75-80% out, then it sharpens up again.

Re: eye relief it is generous for glasses wearers, but 2-3mm is consumed by the chunky eyecups.
 
I don't have a reference binoculars with a 7.8° or slightly under FOV to compare with, so I'm not sure how accurate the spec for the Pentax is.

I wouldn't say that the Pentax (or the Nikon) are sharp near the edge of the field. For one, the field curvature present in both models prevents that.

Sharpness is relative. (What circle of confusion (CoC) are you specifying?) I have not tried Swarovski's, but with the binoculars that I have tried, I can detect a loss in resolution not far off the center of the FOV.
 
I had the Pentax and the 8x42 monarch 7. I had a slight preference for the Pentax as it was less prone to both glare and blackouts and was far more comfortable to use. It did have a narrow afov, but I measures the fov at about the specd 7.8, the magnification was closer to 6.5 making it seem narrower than the specifications indicated.

Overall I agree with pretty much everything OP said although I would rate the chromatic abberation control better in the Pentax than the Nikon.
 
Just an update. I've continued to use and test both these models (and compare them against other models), and I stand by my original observations.

Also just within the last few days I've 3D printed lens shades for the Nikon which does seem to help some with the veiling glare when it occurs, but is not a miracle.

I forgot if I've mentioned: With the Pentax there is sometimes a ring of reflection surrounding the FOV which can be distracting sometimes. But since it's outside the FOV circle, it's much less distracting than the veiling glare of the Nikon.
 

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