I bought them a year ago for Hawkwatching. Lousy for Hawks, no field of view, and lack the punch of a zoom scope. Took them to the big lake, stuck them on a tripod and looked at the ducks. Pretty darn good! Took them out at night to look at stars. lots of shake, but that can be remedied. Price, about 400 bucks. .... The verdict, I like them for the porch and the lake, and stars, but don't plan on making these your general use pair. .... There, I have done my good deed for the day, I am going to look for some big nice scope reviews.