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Bac_77

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• Jan 7, 2016

• #1

Hi i have some doubt about 2 birds photographed in Kenia in oct 2014.
The weaver photo is taken in Watamu on the coast.
I think could be african golden weaver....probably a female....?

The bustard photo taken in Tsavo east.... also this maybe is a female?..... hartlaub's?

Thank you bye Marco.

 

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nikothomsen

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• Jan 7, 2016

• #2

I have no experience with East Africa, but going there in March so might as well practice now:

I'd suggest the bustard could be either Hartlaub's or Buff-crested.

The weaver could be African Golden-weaver.

 

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Larry Lade

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• Jan 8, 2016

• #3

Looking at my "Birds of Kenya and Northern Tanzania" bird field guide, I would be inclined to go with an immature male Hartlaub's Bustard.
African Golden Weaver is probably a good call for the other bird.

 

Djerf

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #4

The Black-bellied Bustard should be the default species in most areas (shouldn't it?), and the neck looks finely vermiculated to me (like Black-bellied should). I don't know if the eye colour really/always differs between Hartlaub's and Black-bellied, but in some plates in field guides (eg Birds of East Africa) Hartlaub's shows lighter/white-yellow eyes and Black-bellied darker/orange-red.

The Weaver is an Eastern Golden Weaver (Ploceus subaureus).

Joakim

 

Djerf

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #5

After some quick googling I don't think the eye colour is a reliable character.

J

 

Tib78

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #6

Djerf said:

The Black-bellied Bustard should be the default species in most areas (shouldn't it?)

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Not in Tsavo for instance. It's a Hatlaub's all right: spotted crown, pale "spikes" on the back and lack of extensive dark centres to upper mantle feathers are good pointers.

 

Tib78

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #7

Djerf said:

The Weaver is an Eastern Golden Weaver (Ploceus subaureus).

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Agree on Ploceus subaureus. But where does "Eastern" come from? Is it just an alternate name for African golden weaver? Or has Ploceus subaureus been split?

 

Djerf

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #8

Thanks for your comments Tib!

How about this one (from Serengeti Tanzania)?

All the best

Joakim

PS. The name is from the IOC-list.

 

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Tib78

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• Jan 9, 2016

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Djerf said:

Thanks for your comments Tib!

How about this one (from Serengeti Tanzania)?

All the best

Joakim

PS. The name is from the IOC-list.

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Black-bellied for this one.

Weird that the IOC uses that name...thanks!

 

Djerf

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #10

Thanks again!

I started to use names from the IOC list in this forum because Nutcracker told me so

All the best!

Joakim

 

Tib78

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• Jan 9, 2016

• #11

Djerf said:

Thanks again!

I started to use names from the IOC list in this forum because Nutcracker told me so

All the best!

Joakim

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Then again you should be suspicious of anyone presenting himself as a nut....8-P