Empid and duck from NJ, USA (1 Viewer)

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tom baxter

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• Aug 28, 2015

• #1

I think the empid may be a yellow-bellied flycatcher, but this would be a life bird and I am unsure. Edit: On second thought the throat may be too white, and it is probably Trail's

As for the duck, it looked like a black duck, but whats with the huge bill, it almost looks like a shovler bill.

 

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Last edited: Aug 28, 2015

Larry Lade

Moderator

• Aug 28, 2015

• #2

Looks like a really short primary projection, maybe a Least Flycatcher. Don't know about the duck.

 

Jeff Hopkins

Just another...observer

• Aug 28, 2015

• #3

The duck is a female shoveler.

 

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fugl

Well-known member

• Aug 28, 2015

• #4

Eastern Phoebe, Northern Shoveler

 

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tom baxter

Well-known member

• Aug 28, 2015

• #5

the empid can't be a phoebe for a number reasons. To name a few, wing bars are wrong color and too large, bill is yellow, head and back not dark enough.

 

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fugl

Well-known member

• Aug 28, 2015

• #6

tom baxter said:

the empid can't be a phoebe for a number reasons. To name a few, wing bars are wrong color and too large, bill is yellow, head and back not dark enough.

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The bill shows all-dark on my monitor and my assumption was that the bird's a juvenile not the darker and plainer adult.

 

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Kratter

Well-known member

• Aug 28, 2015

• #7

Agree with Least Flycatcher and Northern Shoveller.

Andy

 

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fugl

Well-known member

• Aug 28, 2015

• #8

Kratter said:

Agree with Least Flycatcher and Northern Shoveller

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Ok, Least Flycatcher it is then. . ..

 

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AdrianB73

Well-known member

• Aug 29, 2015

• #9

What? No! The Empid is an Alder/Willow Flycatcher (Traill's Flycatcher) and the duck is a mallard! The Empid's barely got an eyering, completely wrong for least, and the shape fits Traill's better. The duck does not have a shoveler bill; I don't know what you guys are seeing. It's a mallard.

 

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tom baxter

Well-known member

• Aug 29, 2015

• #10

AdrianB73 said:

What? No! The Empid is an Alder/Willow Flycatcher (Traill's Flycatcher) and the duck is a mallard! The Empid's barely got an eyering, completely wrong for least, and the shape fits Traill's better. The duck does not have a shoveler bill; I don't know what you guys are seeing. It's a mallard.

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lol, I can't help but to laugh at this post(in a good way). I don't disagree with you about any of your points though. The duck's bill looked weird to me but I initially listed it as a mallard.

 

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AdrianB73

Well-known member

• Aug 29, 2015

• #11

Sorry if I came off as rude. I was just surprised four people agreed on two incorrect identifications.

 

Tiraya

San Diego CA

• Aug 29, 2015

• #12

Funnily enough I was going to say Trail's and mallard yesterday, but seeing the number of IDs from good birders suggesting otherwise I restrained myself from commenting!

 

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tom baxter

Well-known member

• Aug 29, 2015

• #13

Adrian,

No offense taken. I just found it funny because its unusual to see myself and the posters above be so off base, especially on the duck. The empid is a little harder than the duck by default, but I think you are correct and I suspected Trail's after a little waffling.