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Lycian Coast. Turkey. January (1 Viewer)
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lou salomon
the birdonist
1. sparrowhawk
2. five corn buntings and a chaffinch
3. looks a bit like a goshawk on sillhouette but tail is very square cut off so might be another sparrowhawk (definitely not a peregrine)
2. five corn buntings and a chaffinch
3. looks a bit like a goshawk on sillhouette but tail is very square cut off so might be another sparrowhawk (definitely not a peregrine)
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I totally disagree, I am counting 7 Corn Buntings and a Chaffinch 3
(and 2 Sparrowhawks)
lou salomon
the birdonist
oh yes, maths...8-P
SteveClifton
Well-known member
I'm struggling to see why #1 isn't a Goshawk...
lou salomon
the birdonist
'cause of the contrastingly barred remiges.
SteveClifton
Well-known member
Yes, I tend to agree now with Sparrowhawk. Just looks very broad-bodied from that angle
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Just out of interest? Any further breakdown as to why it is a Sparrowhawk? Not that I'm new to either species. But it might help others who may have problems with ID between the 2 species. Contrasting remiges is one factor in this image. It's a fuzzy record shot seeming to show a thick-set, wide-hipped, shortish-tailed accipiter (with apparent rounding to the retrices.) A silvery sheen to the breast, and a hefty looking head, and Gos-like dark hood/white flash above eye. Trailing edge of secondaries also slightly convexing. It's a record shot, but, on first impressions, I see why Steve called it Gos.
Not passing any judgement on ID, but would be interested if Lou gave a better breakdown for others who may be struggling with this species pair. Based on the photo. It might help! Thanx! :t:
lou salomon
the birdonist
i'd like to emphasize that boldly barred remiges are an exclusion criteria for adult goshawk.
front view sprawks often give a broad hipped impression. tail is not rounded, just the outer feather's corners seem to be so, tail is not closed completely as the bird is making a turn. then you have the arm-hand-ratio: longer arm in goshawk and secondaries much more bulging than here. the lattern two need some experience (in judging the ratio) and pics of accipiters are notoriously deceiving.
front view sprawks often give a broad hipped impression. tail is not rounded, just the outer feather's corners seem to be so, tail is not closed completely as the bird is making a turn. then you have the arm-hand-ratio: longer arm in goshawk and secondaries much more bulging than here. the lattern two need some experience (in judging the ratio) and pics of accipiters are notoriously deceiving.
phil baber
Clipped Wing
Thanks Lou. Needed a bit more. That was ample.
