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williamsoni was sampled in Round et al (2017), published shortly after Lim et al, in Forktail 33. This is shows exactly the same results for siamensis and erwini as Lim et al. using genetics and vocalisations, and backs up Lim et al work beautifully. The sampled the mainland Southeast Asian palpebrosus taxa.

Having seen japonicus and montanus complex throughout the range, and familiar with the Lim et al work through their study, it does mostly make sense (note iris colour and vocalisations). The whole palpebrosus/montanus/japonicus complex was already in a complete mess, so this unravelling was never going to look pretty.
I think the one population that does need sampling now is Lim et al's hunch on the montane buxtoni Sumatran birds

James
 
James Eaton said:
williamsoni was sampled in Round et al (2017), published shortly after Lim et al, in Forktail 33. This is shows exactly the same results for siamensis and erwini as Lim et al. using genetics and vocalisations, and backs up Lim et al work beautifully. The sampled the mainland Southeast Asian palpebrosus taxa.

James
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Philip D. Round, Sontaya Manawattana, Jenjit Khudamrongsawat, Somying Thunhikorn, Mongkol Safoowong & Tucksaorn Bhummakasikara. Disentangling avian diversity: South-East Asian mainland Oriental White-eye Zosterops palpebrosus constitutes two distinct lineages Forktail 33: 103-115.

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A sympatric pair of undescribed white-eye species (Aves: Zosteropidae: Zosterops) with different origins

Darren P O’Connell, David J Kelly, Naomi Lawless, Katie O’Brien, Fionn Ó Marcaigh, Adi Karya, Kangkuso Analuddin & Nicola M Marples

Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society (https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlz022)

Abstract
Research in the Indo-Pacific region has contributed massively to the understanding of speciation. White-eyes (Aves: Zosteropidae: Zosterops), a lineage containing both widespread ‘supertramp’ species and a high proportion of island endemics, have provided invaluable models. Molecular tools have increased speciation research, but delimiting species remains problematic. We investigated the evolutionary history of Zosterops species in south-east Sulawesi using mitochondrial DNA, morphometric, song and plumage analyses, to draw species limits and assess which techniques offer best resolution. Our investigation revealed a novel Zosterops species, >3000 km from its closest relative. Additionally, we demonstrated unanticipated diversity in the alleged ‘supertramp’ Zosterops chloris and propose the Wakatobi Islands subspecies (Z. c. flavissimus) to be given full species status. Furthermore, we provide the first molecular and phenotypic assessment of the Sulawesi endemic Zosterops consobrinorum. While local populations of this species vary in either genetics or morphometrics, none show consistency across measures. Therefore, we propose no change to Zosterops consobrinorum taxonomy. This study gives insight into one of the great Indo-Pacific radiations and demonstrates the value of using multiple lines of evidence for taxonomic review.
 
Mike Earp said:
A sympatric pair of undescribed white-eye species (Aves: Zosteropidae: Zosterops) with different origins

Darren P O’Connell, David J Kelly, Naomi Lawless, Katie O’Brien, Fionn Ó Marcaigh, Adi Karya, Kangkuso Analuddin & Nicola M Marples

Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society (https://doi.org/10.1093/zoolinnean/zlz022)

Abstract
Research in the Indo-Pacific region has contributed massively to the understanding of speciation. White-eyes (Aves: Zosteropidae: Zosterops), a lineage containing both widespread ‘supertramp’ species and a high proportion of island endemics, have provided invaluable models. Molecular tools have increased speciation research, but delimiting species remains problematic. We investigated the evolutionary history of Zosterops species in south-east Sulawesi using mitochondrial DNA, morphometric, song and plumage analyses, to draw species limits and assess which techniques offer best resolution. Our investigation revealed a novel Zosterops species, >3000 km from its closest relative. Additionally, we demonstrated unanticipated diversity in the alleged ‘supertramp’ Zosterops chloris and propose the Wakatobi Islands subspecies (Z. c. flavissimus) to be given full species status. Furthermore, we provide the first molecular and phenotypic assessment of the Sulawesi endemic Zosterops consobrinorum. While local populations of this species vary in either genetics or morphometrics, none show consistency across measures. Therefore, we propose no change to Zosterops consobrinorum taxonomy. This study gives insight into one of the great Indo-Pacific radiations and demonstrates the value of using multiple lines of evidence for taxonomic review.
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I presume the sp nov referred to in the abstract is Wangi Wangi White-eye.
 
How about jameseatoni or frankrheindti coauthors of The Birds of the Indonesian Archipeligo? Who collected it first?
 
It has never been collected, so far as I understand.
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Oh no!
The Trinity people netted these birds multiple times so maybe got blood or feathers?
https://www.academia.edu/3621453/An...aledupa_island_Wakatobi_SE_Sulawesi_Indonesia .
News coverage: “The Wangi-wangi was only discovered in 2003 by Marples’ team. “ The Wangi-wangi white-eye is a much older species,
Marples and her team incorporated genetic, body size and song measures as a means of comparing birds.
The Wangi-wangi white-eye bird species were discovered by Dr Nicola Marples’ team which has studied the biodiversity and bird species there (Sulawesi?) since 1999.
The Wangi-wangi white-eye is a particularly special discovery, as it is found on only one tiny island and its closest relatives live more than 3,000 km away,” she added.
 
mb1848 said:
Oh no!
The Trinity people netted these birds multiple times so maybe got blood or feathers?
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Here, they used contour feathers plucked from the flank of the birds they had netted for DNA analysis.
"Contour feathers were sampled to minimize the risk of injury to the birds and to avoid disruption to flight ability and plumage-based visual signals (McDonald & Griffith, 2011)."
(These feathers are certainly not diagnostic, except of course by the DNA they contain -- a description based on this type of material would certainly be frowned upon.)
 
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The title of the paper and some of the press releases are a bit misleading: one of these two 'undescribed' white-eyes - the Wakatobi White-eye - is not an undescribed taxon, they just elevate a previously described subspecies to full species title. And as far as I can tell from quickly going through the pdf, they neither formally describe nor name the 'Wangi-Wangi' White-eye...
 
Melanie said:
I am curious how long they will need to write a description on the Wangi Wangi white-eye.
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In the paper, they expressly "recommend the collection of type specimens so that this species can be officially named and recognized" and, further down in the text, they complain about "administrative delays that can occur in conservation biology".
Maybe the question is not that much "how long they will need to write a description" but, rather, whether they're going to get a collection permit...?
 
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Putting aside the question of desirability, isn't it correct to say that there should already be sufficient specimen material to validly describe Wangi Wangi White-eye in accordance with ICZN rules?
 

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