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Extra limital BOP.....? (1 Viewer)
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Mark Lew1s
My real name is Mark Lewis
Presumably a displaying accipiter?
Rotherbirder
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Displaying Accipiter for me too; most likely a Sparrowhawk. Extralimital to/of what, may I ask?
dantheman
Bah humbug
KenM
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......to the limitations of my 16x optical!
It was considerably higher than the Buzzard, and did give albeit an impression (subjective some might say) of being of a reasonable size? The tail in particular looking extremely broad, not unlike the wings, quite unlike female A.nisus imo. and I do see a lot of both gender.
Mince Pies to the skies. :eek!:
KenM
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When first seen it appeared to my eye as being bigger and bulkier than Sprawk, albeit perhaps several hundred feet above the Buzzard (thus always mindful of size illusion real or otherwise, whilst comparing like for like), I then reached for the camera and from the single (1 sec film clip shot), I salvaged just 2 useable grabs.
This 2nd last grab although of the same resolution, appears to show the birds head looking down and showing a white nape and isolated hood?
The overall general impression given, was of a bulky displaying Accip. that seemed to ''compare'' size wise with the Buteo below, even allowing for the height difference between the two birds...those hips look extremely wide to me, irrespective of the flared UTC's.
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StuartReeves
Local rarity
Like Harry, the few available pixels give me the impression that this is a sparrowhawk.
lou salomon
the birdonist
you can't do more with these pixels than calling it an accipiter
Nutcracker
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Apart from that Sparrowhawks in London are 3 a penny, and Goshawks in London as rare as hen's teeth
Britain just doesn't have urban Goshawks the way Germany does, sadly.
Richard Prior
Halfway up an Alp
Another thought - having visited England last weekend and noted an overall change in the shape of the human population, I wonder if local Sparrowhawks are following suit, hence the 'wide hips' that Ken commented on
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Rotherbirder
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Still as above. Nothing more can be done with this from the images available, as has already been said by several others; forget and move on.
KenM
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Apart from that Sparrowhawks in London are 3 a penny, and Goshawks in London as rare as hen's teeth
Britain just doesn't have urban Goshawks the way Germany does, sadly.
If I may bring you up to speed Nutcracker, in 2013 the London Bird Report had records from Herts, Middx. and Essex with comments..that several records had yet to be submitted, possibly Rainham?...Hopefully that will extract the hen's teeth
Current UK population, conservative estimate 400-500 pairs (almost certainly under recorded...perhaps not unlike Hawfinch, also a past master at stealth movement), having had the privilege of on occasion seeing the former hunting, invariably ground hugging, or submersed beneath the canopy, it's no wonder that more often than not, it goes unrecorded!
Two images supplied of gentilis, first one seven years ago in Shropshire with Red Kite (note apparent short broad tail, and the compact shape, second image taken several years ago within M25 (10 mins. by car from the house).
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The very fact that the London Bird Report lists these records and mentions several have yet to be submitted confirms Nutcracker's comments are correct, i.e. they are rare in London.
Can you imagine the London Bird report saying 'several records of Sparrowhawk are yet to be submitted'?
Two images supplied of gentilis, first one seven years ago in Shropshire with Red Kite (note apparent short broad tail, and the compact shape, second image taken several years ago within M25 (10 mins. by car from the house).
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First Gos is an unidentifiable raptor, second Gos is a displaying Sparrowhawk
Nutcracker
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:clap::clap::clap:
KenM
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Really!...what do you think of these then?.....
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Andy Adcock
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Face mask, capped appearance is visible in 1st pic also
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Nutcracker
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First one is wearing some sort of harness or something, presumably a falconer's escapee
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