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North London Noctuid ? (1 Viewer)

KenM

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This moth was circa 1'' in length and is NOT jumping off the page in Lewingtons...help please.


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Could it be a worn Small Square Spot, Ken?

I honestly don't know Graham (worn being the operative word in this case).

I've always assumed rightly or wrongly, that wings are ''shown'' as either a left over, or a right, or as in this case equally parted and are thus set in stone as far as the closed wing is concerned.

I don't know if there is any positional variability on deportment of said wings?

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I've always assumed rightly or wrongly, that wings are ''shown'' as either a left over, or a right, or as in this case equally parted and are thus set in stone as far as the closed wing is concerned.
I don't know if there is any positional variability on deportment of said wings?
Cheers

The way moths hold their wings is not 'set in stone' - there is no left over right, or right over left that could be sed to distinguish one moth from another (in fact the same moth may show both if kept for a while.

That said, certain subfamilies exhibit a 'general' pattern as far as the wings are concerned. For example, the old subfamily Noctuinae (Euxoa, Agrotis, Noctua, Xestia, etc.) ten to sit at rest with the wings held flat over the body and overlapping slightly. Other noctuids (e.g. Hadena, Mythimna, Thalpophila, etc.), will hold their wings tentiform. Others are less tentiform but delta-shaped.

Similar comments can be made about geometrids (which rest with the wings held delta-shaped (many Larentiines), flat at right angles to the body (Pugs, etc.), or upright (e.g. the Thorns).

The main thing is that there is no hard and fast rule - just generalities.

Hope this helps.

Martin
 
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