Atlantic Canary (Serinus canaria) (1 Viewer)

[Gonçalo Elias]

Currently treated as monotypic by most (all?) authorities. However, Bannerman & Bannerman (1965) on the volume about Madeira refer to the local birds as Serinus canarius canarius. This suggests that some subspecies have been described in the past.

I would appreciate any additional information / details concerning those former subspecies.

 

[Björn Bergenholtz]

Gonçalo, the Richmond Index Lists:

• Serinus canarius flaviserinus Trischitta 1939 (Richmond card here)
• Serinus canarius germanicus Laubmann 1913 (ditto card here)
• Serinus canarius polonicus Domaniewski 1917 (ditto x 3: here, here and here)

Hopefully of some help/use ...

 

[Mike Earp]

Gonçalo, the Richmond Index Lists:

• Serinus canarius flaviserinus Trischitta 1939 (Richmond card here)
• Serinus canarius germanicus Laubmann 1913 (ditto card here)
• Serinus canarius polonicus Domaniewski 1917 (ditto x 3: here, here and here)

Hopefully of some help/use ...

Peters' Check-list (14: 210) treats the species as monotypic with no synonyms given. Same for Avibase.

 

[Gonçalo Elias]

Thanks Björn. These were probably escapes, I presume.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

Peters' Check-list (14: 210) treats the species as monotypic with no synonyms given. Same for Avibase.

Same for H&M ane other sources but since Peter, no author wondered if these taxa were valid?

 

[Gonçalo Elias]

Peters' Check-list (14: 210) treats the species as monotypic with no synonyms given. Same for Avibase.

It's treated as monotypic almost everywhere.

But Bannerman and Bannerman don't. There must be some explanation for this.

 

[l_raty]

But Bannerman and Bannerman don't. There must be some explanation for this.

Not sure what Bannerman & Bannerman's concept was, but beware that Serinus canaria (Linnaeus 1758) has been treated as including S. canaria serinus (Linnaeus 1766) as a subspecies...

 

[Gonçalo Elias]

Not sure what Bannerman & Bannerman's concept was, but beware that Serinus canaria (Linnaeus 1758) has been treated as including S. canaria serinus (Linnaeus 1766) as a subspecies...

You make a good point there Laurent. I will try to find out more about this.

 

[Gonçalo Elias]

Taken from the BWP on CD-ROM: copyright Oxford University Press.

 

[l_raty]

Taken from the BWP on CD-ROM: copyright Oxford University Press.

Would you have the equivalent text for Serin, to see if Roselaar cites germanicus, polonicus, and the likes, under that species ?
(I have the printed books at home, but I'm not there right now. BTW : impressed that the CD-ROM version still works... )

 

[Gonçalo Elias]

Would you have the equivalent text for Serin, to see if Roselaar cites germanicus, polonicus, and the likes, under that species ?
(I have the printed books at home, but I'm not there right now. BTW : impressed that the CD-ROM version still works... )

Sure, here it is. Germanicus is mentioned, as you can see, but not polonicus.

Yes the CD-ROM works fine - probably because I still use Windows 7.

 

[l_raty]

Sure, here it is. Germanicus is mentioned, as you can see, but not polonicus.

Tanks, Gonçalo. Thus, at least Serinus canarius germanicus Laubmann 1913 is actually a synonym of Serinus serinus.
Bannerman & Bannerman 1965 seems to be later that most works that treated Canary and Serin as conspecific, but this may still have been the opinion of these authors, I would think.