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Automolus foliage-gleaners (1 Viewer)

Richard Klim

Richard Klim

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Claramunt, Derryberry, Cadena, Cuervo, Sanín & Brumfield (in press). Phylogeny and classification of Automolus foliage-gleaners and allies (Furnariidae). Condor.

Andres Cuervo: Clibanornis rubiginosus (Ruddy Foliage-gleaner):
... This polytypic species is proposed to be transferred to the genus Clibanoris (subgenus Hylocryptus) by Claramunt et al. (2013). Additional taxonomic work on this bird is badly needed.
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Claramunt et al 2013 pdf

Condor 115(2): 375–385. [pdf] [pdf] (= data security!)

Proposed classification (surely to be adopted by AOU-SACC)...

Genus Clibanornis
  • Subgenus Clibanornis
    • Clibanornis rectirostris - Chestnut-/Henna-capped Foliage-gleaner
    • Clibanornis dendrocolaptoides - Canebrake Groundcreeper
  • Subgenus Hylocryptus
    • Clibanornis erythrocephalus - Henna-hooded Foliage-gleaner
    • Clibanornis rubiginosus - Ruddy Foliage-gleaner
    • Clibanornis rufipectus - Santa Marta Foliage-gleaner
Genus Thripadectes
  • Subgenus Thripadectes
    • Thripadectes ignobilis - Uniform Treehunter
    • Thripadectes flammulatus - Flammulated Treehunter
    • Thripadectes scrutator - Rufous-backed/Peruvian Treehunter
  • Subgenus Rhopoctites
    • Thripadectes holostictus - Striped Treehunter
    • Thripadectes virgaticeps - Streak-capped Treehunter
    • Thripadectes melanorhynchus - Black-billed Treehunter
    • Thripadectes rufobrunneus - Streak-breasted Treehunter
Genus Automolus
  • Subgenus Cryptomolus, subgenus novum
    • Automolus rufipileatus - Chestnut-crowned Foliage-gleaner
    • Automolus melanopezus - Brown-rumped Foliage-gleaner
  • Subgenus Automolus
    • Automolus subulatus - Striped Woodhaunter
    • Automolus ochrolaemus - Buff-throated Foliage-gleaner
    • Automolus infuscatus - Olive-backed Foliage-gleaner
    • Automolus paraensis - Para Foliage-gleaner
    • Automolus lammi - Pernambuco Foliage-gleaner
    • Automolus leucophthalmus - White-eyed Foliage-gleaner
[Doesn't split Striped Woodhaunter – eg, Ridgely & Tudor 2009, IOC, AOU-SACC Proposal #40 (failed).]​
 
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scrūtātor, ōris: a searcher, scrutinizer, examiner, investigator. Also, in poetry: a fisherman--but this is presumably not what was meant here.
(The [OD] doesn't offer any explanation. The name was not coined by the author who published it.)
"Treehunter" probably already integrates this idea.

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"I add that the earliest English name that I can find is �Taczanowski�s Treehunter� in Cory & Hellmayr (1925), who named it after the person who described the species. As long as one isn�t opposed to homonyms, in my opinion things have gone downhill ever since. Meyer de Schauensee, evidently influenced by Eisenmann�s crusade against homonyms, came up with �Buff-throated.�" : should have been "eponyms"? (Everybody is presumably opposed to homonyms.)
As an eponym, Jelski's Treehunter (after the person who coined the bird's name, and presumably identified it as new in the first place) might arguably be better than Taczanowski's (after the person who published a description of the bird, thereby making the name proposed by the former nomenclaturally available).
 
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Why not Taczanowski, pronounced simply: Ta-cha-no-ski ? He was one of greatest Polish ornithologists, known for the first monography of birds of Poland and his South American research. By far bigger figure than Jelski (or Lady Amherst). And apparently very friendly and open man, too.

He also recorded the only ever Pied Kingfisher in central Europe.
 
jurek said:
Why not Taczanowski, pronounced simply: Ta-cha-no-ski ? He was one of greatest Polish ornithologists, known for the first monography of birds of Poland and his South American research.
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As a half-Pole, I'd be happy with that! But it brings to mind King 1997 (Checklist of the Birds of Eurasia) and his forthright views on the need to dumb down 'difficult' eastern European names... :C
It is vital that all names be easy to pronounce. It is elitist, as some have said, with the advantages of a superior education and broad travel, that people can learn to pronounce those Russian names. The reality is that most English-speaking bird folks never will. A list with names that most can't pronounce will present problems for many users.
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So: Hume's... :t:; but Przevalski's... :gn:.
 
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Richard Klim said:
As a half-Pole, I'd be happy with that! But it brings to mind King 1997 (Checklist of the Birds of Eurasia) and his forthright views on the need to dumb down 'difficult' eastern European names... :C

So: Hume's... :t:; but Przevalski's... :gn:.
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And when you think that most English people can't even pronounce Radde's correctly . . . :-C
 
" 'difficult' eastern European names" are hardly the problem.
The problem with (unrelated example) Przevalski's Parrotbill* is not pronunciation but actually finding one.
(*and "Rusty-throated Parrotbill" just sounds boring)
So I'd definitely vote for Taczanowski, especially now I've been told how to pronounce it (along with Radde).
David
 
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