Baird Sandpiper or Temminck Stint? (1 Viewer)

[Avestom]

Hello, a friend of mine, Michal Polakowski observed a Stint/Sandpiper on 13th Aug in Lapy, NE Poland. Pics in Picasa:
http://picasaweb.google.pl/mich.polakowski/IdGallery#5505175427496384178
http://picasaweb.google.pl/mich.polakowski/IdGallery#5505175164591675650
or at avestom:
Can you help with ID of this bird?

 

[RJP]

If it was a Baird's Sandpiper, it would be a vagrant in Poland, correct?

In pictures 20, 21, 27, and 29 you can see that the wingtips fall a little short of the tip of the tail. I believe this rules out Baird's, as on that bird the wingtips should project well beyond the tip of the tail. Having said what it's not, I am not familiar with European shorebirds, so I will leave it to others to say what it is.

 

[rokermartin]

Looks like Baird's Sandpiper to me.

 

[chris butterworth]

The bird doesn't seem to have enough white on the outer tail for Temminck's, the supercillium, strength of the upperpart patterning, thickness and general shape of the bill look right for Bairds but, as RJP's said the tail looks too long for that species. Tenatively Bairds.
Chris

 

[mäkpe]

I see no problem of this being juvenile Temminck's Stint based on tail projectin behind the primaries. There's nothing odd in the plumage for Temminck's IMO.

 

[HH75]

Hi there,
This bird, in some images, does give a Baird's-like impression, but, like 'Makpe' above, who I presume has far greater experience than I do with Temminck's Stints, particularly juveniles in autumn, I also think that this is a juvenile Temminck's Stint.
The primary projection beyond the tertials isn't as long as one would expect on Baird's, and the tail projects beyond the wingstips, just as one would expect on a Temminck's Stint. As the bird appears to be a juvenile, and, as such, would not be in active primary moult, then this cannot be explained by the outer primaries still growing.
On a Baird's Sandpiper, there is often (usually/always?) a darker area rising up from the dark supraloral and cutting into the supercilium, which this bird appears to lack. Another pro-Temminck's feature is the fact that the legs appear to be covered in mud, except for the very upper parts of the tibia, and those appear yellowish.
Regards,
Harry

 

[JANJ]

I agree to Temminck´s.

A selection of Baird´s showing Harry´s point about the loral area.

http://www.pbase.com/btblue/bairds_sandpiper

JanJ

 

[bernie b]

I agree to Temminck´s.

A selection of Baird´s showing Harry´s point about the loral area.

http://www.pbase.com/btblue/bairds_sandpiper

JanJ

nice selection of Baird's snaps