Common Nightingale or Thrush Nightingale ? (1 Viewer)

[oguenaydin]

Hi,

Foto: 15.04.2022 Ankara same bird

Thanks in advance...

 

[Eranou]

Nightingale i think, as the first primary appears longer than it would be in a Thrush Nightingale.

 

[oguenaydin]

Nightingale i think, as the first primary appears longer than it would be in a Thrush Nightingale.

8 Primers ?

 

[_pauls]

I can't help with the ID but those are cracking photos

 

[Eranou]

I’m only seeing 7 visible primary tips to be honest.

 

[KC Foggin]

I'm going with Common Nightingale and they are beautiful images.

 

[KenM]

Fantastic images oguenaydin!
Common Nightingale for me, note long 1st primary.

Cheers

 

[Andy Adcock]

Fantastic images oguenaydin!
Common Nightingale for me, note long 1st primary.

Cheers

Can we see the first primary, tracing from the wing base, the longest feather looks to be the third or even fourth?

Do we count from the inside to the outside or is the outer feather the first primary?

 

[THE_FERN]

Can we see the first primary, tracing from the wing base, the longest feather looks to be the third or even fourth?

Do we count from the inside to the outside or is the outer feather the first primary?

It's the smallest, outer most feather. It's clearly longer than the coverts it's next to (e.g. photo 1). Svensson/Collins shows thrush nightingale's will be the same length or shorter

 

[Andy Hurley]

Here is a Thrush Nightingale for comparison;

 

[Andy Adcock]

Here is a Thrush Nightingale for comparison;

My question would be this, how can you preume the same same moult status or indeed, that you're not being misled by a brd in moult?

 

[Butty]

Umm... (without checking anything) there's not much that's in primary moult in spring - so, no moult, no misleading - on that score anyway. I'd be much more worried about sorting out which primary's which without having the bird in the hand.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Umm... (without checking anything) there's not much that's in primary moult in spring - so, no moult, no misleading - on that score anyway. I'd be much more worried about sorting out which primary's which without having the bird in the hand.

Sort of my point, I'm looking ath the way the feathers are overlaid and it's tricky to tell which is which, for me anyway.

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Umm... (without checking anything) there's not much that's in primary moult in spring - so, no moult, no misleading - on that score anyway. I'd be much more worried about sorting out which primary's which without having the bird in the hand.

Absolutely no doubt its a Common. Long P1 PC +4?,WP=3, P2=P5/6 & emarginated3, 4. Moult limit in GC's and retained PC's confirm age as 2cy.

Grahame