Cotingas & Manakins (2 Viewers)

[Xenospiza]

Buffon's Piauhau is Querula purpurata, not a Lipaugus. Why is this name given to Lipaugus rather than its original species, if indeed Querula is its original species? What is the origin of the name Piauhau? according to Buffon, this would come from his cry. Why do those who draw up the lists (especially in French) in common language do they do anything?

The "Piauhau hurleur" (Screaming Piha, in French Guyana: Paypayo) sounds more like "piauhau" than the Purple-breasted Cotinga (which sounds more like a chicken to me). So I assume there was a bit of a misunderstanding.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

This seems quite plausible.

XC479522 Purple-throated Fruitcrow (Querula purpurata)

xeno-canto.org

Current use in French for Lipaugus/Snowornis may come from a mix-up with English "Piha" -- undoubtedly also onomatopoetic, and superficially similar (although the actual calls are certainly not).

XC425555 Screaming Piha (Lipaugus vociferans)

No modification Habitat: dense forest with numerous wetlands

xeno-canto.org

Piauhau and Piha would perhaps be two different names that current French nomenclators have confused without taking into account their original description (this is also why the CINFO contained several errors that I had to correct 🙄🙄)

 

[l_raty]

So I assume there was a bit of a misunderstanding.

Try listening the recording I linked above.
I'd say "Piaw... Piawhaw!" is a quite OK rendering for the fruitcrow. (And, no, this particular vocalization really doesn't sound chicken-like to me.)
I struggle to hear "Piauhau" (listen to this as pronounced in French on Google translate) in the call of a Screaming Piha.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

The "Piauhau hurleur" (Screaming Piha, in French Guyana: Paypayo) sounds more like "piauhau" than the Purple-breasted Cotinga (which sounds more like a chicken to me). So I assume there was a bit of a misunderstanding.

Levaillant agreed with Buffon that "Piauhau" comes from the cry. And a listening to Xeno canto seems to go in this way

 

[Xenospiza]

Try listening the recording I linked above.
I'd say "Piaw... Piawhaw!" is a quite OK rendering for the fruitcrow. (And, no, this particular vocalization really doesn't sound chicken-like.)
I struggle to hear "Piauhau" in the call of a Screaming Piha.

C'est possible. The three syllables (if you speak French as slowly as me) still are better than the English name for the Screaming Piha.
The Brazilian Cricrió is definitely best!

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

C'est possible. The three syllables (if you speak French as slowly as me) still are better than the English name for the Screaming Piha.
The Brazilian Cricrió is definitely best!

The Lipaugus vociferans is best known because we often hear it in animal documentaries without seeing it. I would transcribe his cry like : "Weee weee hooo" very loud

 

[Snapdragyn]

The Lipaugus vociferans is best known because we often hear it in animal documentaries without seeing it. I would transcribe his cry like : "Weee weee hooo" very loud

Yes, if you ever get close enough to see one calling, you won't really want to repeat the experience. It is PAINFULLY loud up close!

 

[Jacana]

It also makes at least two other vocalisations before the big Weeee WeeeeHooooo. Something like "waaa Waaaa". I assume they're semi-involuntary sounds made during an intake of breath.

 

[Jim LeNomenclatoriste]

. Something like "waaa Waaaa".

listening to them, this sound seemed more guttural to me