Flycatchers, Michigan (1 Viewer)

[Hainan on the fly]

Given the quality of these pictures and difficulty in separating similar looking flycatchers, can I do any better than Empidonax flycatcher on either of these?

Thanks for any input!

Brian

1st individual: 1a-1e
2nd individual: 2a-2b

 

[THE_FERN]

If forced, I'd go alder fly for the first and least for the second. Slightly more confident of the second. We can't see some important marks in these photos (like primary projection for the first), though, and many would leave them unidentified.

Have a look at:

Category:Empidonax - BirdForum Opus

www.birdforum.net

And see if you agree. It's based on the belief that the first is actually brownish (I created the table and so stared at quite a few photos for quite a long time...)

 

[Hainan on the fly]

If forced, I'd go alder fly for the first and least for the second. Slightly more confident of the second. We can't see some important marks in these photos (like primary projection for the first), though, and many would leave them unidentified.

Have a look at:

Category:Empidonax - BirdForum Opus

www.birdforum.net

And see if you agree. It's based on the belief that the first is actually brownish (I created the table and so stared at quite a few photos for quite a long time...)

Thanks! That table is very cool! Appreciate you sharing.

Brian

 

[AveryBartels]

If forced, I'd go alder fly for the first and least for the second. Slightly more confident of the second. We can't see some important marks in these photos (like primary projection for the first), though, and many would leave them unidentified.

Have a look at:

Category:Empidonax - BirdForum Opus

www.birdforum.net

And see if you agree. It's based on the belief that the first is actually brownish (I created the table and so stared at quite a few photos for quite a long time...)

Agreed, the first looks to be a Willow/Alder and the second a Least