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[Aracari]

Just out of curiosity... does anyone know what's the origin of the subspecies name Turdus ignobilis goodfellowi?

Pretty funny name for a bird...

 

[Daniel Philippe]

what's the origin of the subspecies name Turdus ignobilis goodfellowi?

Here is the account for Goodfellow in Beolens & Watkins 2003 :

« Walter Goodfellow (1866-1953) was a British ornithologist and explorer. He discovered the Mikado Pheasant in Formosa and led the British Ornithologist’s Union’s expedition to New Guinea. He collected live birds for Mrs Johnstone, a well-known aviculturist, who received an award for breeding the lorikeet named after her. Goodfellow’s Tree Kangaroo Dendrolagus goodfellowi is also named after him. Goodfellow’s collection was later acquired by the British Museum. He was awarded the British Ornithogists’ Union Medal in 1912. Ogilvie-Grant described the kingfisher from a specimen collected by Goodfellow in Mindanao. »

And they give 4 names:
Mindanao Jungle-Flycatcher Rhinomyias goodfellowi Ogilvie-Grant, 1905
Goodfellow’s Kingfisher Ceyx goodfellowi Ogilvie-Grant, 1905
Buru Red Lory Eos bornea goodfellowi Ogilvie-Grant, 1907
Black-masked White-eye Lophozosterops goodfellowi (Hartert, 1903)

I suppose these birds also must have been named after him as they thrive in Taiwan or New Guinea:
White-browed Shortwing Brachypteryx montana goodfellowi Ogilvie-Grant, 1912
Hooded Pitta Pitta sordida goodfellowi C. M. N. White, 1937
Flamecrest Regulus goodfellowi Ogilvie-Grant, 1906

And even if this bird is found in South America, I think it is the same for Turdus ignobilis goodfellowi Hartert & Hellmayr, 1901 considering the first author and the date of description.

 

[mb1848]

Yes. Looking at the original they state it is named for Walter Goodfellow.
http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/22660 .
Page 492.
http://books.google.com/books?id=oO...=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA65,M1 . Goodfellow's Nature Notes from Ecudor. Starting on age 65, on pages 266-267 he mentions that there is a difference between the Columbian and Ecudorean Turdus ignoblis. .

 

[fugl]

Actually, I'm more curious about the story behind the latin name--ignobilis--than by goodfellowi. What could possibly be "ignoble" about a thrush?

 

[mb1848]

Looking under Persus at Tufts, ignobilis means unknown, unrenowned, undistinguished, obscure. As a republican with a small ‘r’ I join in solidarity with Turdus non-noble. Liberté, égalité etc.
Sclater describes it as having a “uniform style of coloring” maybe he considered this to make the bird obscure or undistinguished?
http://books.google.com/books?id=iO...XOmbl3TongGJpY&lr=&client=firefox-a#PPA274,M1 . Page 274. Perhaps all LBJ birds should be named ignobilis.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattoncito/2350462998 .

 

[fugl]

Looking under Persus at Tufts, ignobilis means unknown, unrenowned, undistinguished, obscure. As a republican with a small ‘r’ I join in solidarity with Turdus non-noble. Liberté, égalité etc.
Sclater describes it as having a “uniform style of coloring” maybe he considered this to make the bird obscure or undistinguished?
http://books.google.com/books?id=iO...XOmbl3TongGJpY&lr=&client=firefox-a#PPA274,M1 . Page 274. Perhaps all LBJ birds should be named ignobilis.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pattoncito/2350462998 .

Ah, of course, not "ig" noble but "non" noble, it all makes perfect sense. I shouldn't have forgotten that cognates don't always mean what they appear to mean, at least not exactly.

 

[Aracari]

Here is the account for Goodfellow in Beolens & Watkins 2003 :

« Walter Goodfellow (1866-1953) was a British ornithologist and explorer...

Oh ok, thanks for digging that up. I thought it maybe had something to do with these guys:

http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/54/039_16534~Goodfellas-Posters.jpg
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