Guys ID help needed, thanks (1 Viewer)

[wwwbaldeagle]

I took these photos in north-east India. Can you pls advise bird IDs. Thanks in advance!

 

[Guêpier8888]

Good evening,

I think that on the first photo, they are Bonelli's Eagles. I can not say, for the other photos, which species it is.

Cordially
Mathis

 

[RafaelMatias]

1: they look like Eastern Imperial Eagles to me
2-5: White-tailed Eagle
6: Crested Honey Buzzard

 

[PYRTLE]

1: they look like Eastern Imperial Eagles to me
2-5: White-tailed Eagle
6: Crested Honey Buzzard

What pictures are you looking at Rafael? I haven't got a no.6 on my monitor.

 

[RafaelMatias]

What pictures are you looking at Rafael? I haven't got a no.6 on my monitor.

Oooops, thanks!
It's photos:
1
2-4
5

Hope this helps.

 

[wwwbaldeagle]

Oooops, thanks!
It's photos:
1
2-4
5

Hope this helps.

Are you sure 3 is an imperial though?

 

[RafaelMatias]

Are you sure 3 is an imperial though?

I went through image 3 too fast and assumed it to be the same as the adjacent images (White-tailed Eagles). It looks like it's not, sorry, and I'm not sure what it is. It would also be interesting to hear further opinions about the birds on pic 1.

 

[sicklebill]

Hmm, well in some haste admittedly, but I would have Indian or Greater Spotted eagle in contention, I suspect White-tailed eagle is rare in India but Pallas's Fish Eagle might be a contender, and the last bird looks like a Black Kite, the bill is foreshortened but the plain tail with a fork and the dark eye-line fit well, perhaps one of the lineatus group.

 

[RafaelMatias]

Re 5: the tail is being split by a branch; nostril is visible (diagonal slit like, indicative of Pernis); the adult-type gorget is just beginning to show.

 

[RafaelMatias]

I'll blame this on the fact that I've got the flu and I'm a bit feverish at the moment (of course... :smoke:...)
I have no experience whatsoever with Pallas's Fish Eagle (I guess this fact might be more to blame! ), but by looking again at image 1, trying not to neglect features I was actually seeing but not valuing, I can see now the apparently bare tarsi on the far right raptor (which rules out Aquila eagles, if a real feature). In fact, after browsing through a few photos, it fits quite well with an immature Pallas's FE, perhaps not dissimilar to this one: http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/b...pecies&Bird_ID=864&Bird_Family_ID=&pagesize=1 (which is labeled wrongly as an adult), even the dark facial patch. The bird further back has its tarsi hidden by the crow, but I sense a different species (with a more horizontal posture) and the longitudinal striations on the underparts still make me think of EIE as a contender.
I'm positive about the Honey Buzzard (Crested/Oriental) ID, and on photos 2 and 4 I still can't see a Pallas'sFE there (pattern of coverts, shape of head with no "mane") but I'm happy to be shown otherwise. It's proving to be educative (for me at least!) and not as straightforwards as it looked like in the beginning... :eat:B

 

[wwwbaldeagle]

I'll blame this on the fact that I've got the flu and I'm a bit feverish at the moment (of course... :smoke:...)
I have no experience whatsoever with Pallas's Fish Eagle (I guess this fact might be more to blame! ), but by looking again at image 1, trying not to neglect features I was actually seeing but not valuing, I can see now the apparently bare tarsi on the far right raptor (which rules out Aquila eagles, if a real feature). In fact, after browsing through a few photos, it fits quite well with an immature Pallas's FE, perhaps not dissimilar to this one: http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/b...pecies&Bird_ID=864&Bird_Family_ID=&pagesize=1 (which is labeled wrongly as an adult), even the dark facial patch. The bird further back has its tarsi hidden by the crow, but I sense a different species (with a more horizontal posture) and the longitudinal striations on the underparts still make me think of EIE as a contender.
I'm positive about the Honey Buzzard (Crested/Oriental) ID, and on photos 2 and 4 I still can't see a Pallas'sFE there (pattern of coverts, shape of head with no "mane") but I'm happy to be shown otherwise. It's proving to be educative (for me at least!) and not as straightforwards as it looked like in the beginning... :eat:B

Thanks! Any idea about 3 though?

 

[THE_FERN]

Thanks! Any idea about 3 though?

Why isn't that immature Pallas's fish eagle?

http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/birdimages.php?p=19&action=birdspecies&Bird_ID=864&Bird_Family_ID=&pagesize=1

 

[RafaelMatias]

Why isn't that immature Pallas's fish eagle?

http://www.orientalbirdimages.org/birdimages.php?p=19&action=birdspecies&Bird_ID=864&Bird_Family_ID=&pagesize=1

The bird on pic 3 is actually on the same spot on the ground as the right hand bird of pic 1, from comparing several features of the foreground (water margin, several unique shaped dirt "mounds"/blobs), just from a slightly different angle. Thus your suggestion makes total sense to me, as it should be the same bird on both photos (presumably).

 

[wwwbaldeagle]

The bird on pic 3 is actually on the same spot on the ground as the right hand bird of pic 1, from comparing several features of the foreground (water margin, several unique shaped dirt "mounds"/blobs), just from a slightly different angle. Thus your suggestion makes total sense to me, as it should be the same bird on both photos (presumably).

However doesn't 3 seem to have a darker back

 

[RafaelMatias]

Note that the darker patches on 3 are on the scapulars only, which are basically not visible on bird 1 (only the wing is fully visible, in full side view); a pale patch on the greater coverts is consistently present on the bird on both photos.

 

[tconzemi]

1: Eastern Imperal and Pallas Fish
2: White-tailed
3: Pallas Fish
4: White-tailed
5: Oriental HB

Pallas Fish Eagle has smaller bill and head than White-tailed, whereas White-tailed Eagle has typical juvenile pattern of upperparts, both have bare tarsi which makes them Fish Eagles