Hawaiian and California IDs (37 Viewers)

[ori76]

After my honeymoon in Hawaii I managed to identify many brds. Therer are a few that I can not. The pictures are very bad (The good pictures lead me to good IDs)

1) Taken this June in the Big island. Hualalai ponds.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/Hawaii.jpg

2 & 3) Taken this june in the big island. Hapuna beach

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/Hawaii2.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/Hawaii3.jpg

4) Taken this june at volcano national park in the big island

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/Hawaii4.jpg

5) Taken this may in San Francisco. It came out of the hole in the tree

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/SanFrancisco.jpg

6) Taken in Santa Mónica this may

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm205/Ori76/Viaje de novios/SantaMnica.jpg

 

[Jim M.]

2 is a Ricebird, which is native to Malaysia.

3 is, I believe, a fledgling Northern Cardinal, another introduced species.

6 looks like a sub-adult Western Gull. (Notice heavy drooping bill).

Not sure can make much of the other photos, but I will post if I do.

Best,
Jim

[EDIT: Ricebird is another name for Nutmeg Mannikin (Lonchura punctulata), as the discussion below notes].

 

[dave44]

4 is a Oma'o, the endemic Big Island Hawaiian Thrush

 

[njlarsen]

I thought Nutmeg Mannikin = Spice Finch = Scaly-breasted Munia on no 2; is ricebird yet another name, or am I overlooking something?

Niels

 

[Jim M.]

I thought Nutmeg Mannikin = Spice Finch = Scaly-breasted Munia on no 2; is ricebird yet another name, or am I overlooking something?

Niels

Right, it's another name for Lonchura punctulata. Probably an old one since it's from a book published in 1971. It is considered a pest in rice paddies in its native country. I put a note and will try to use the more recent terminology in the future.

Best,
Jim

 

[jcwings]

I believe #5 is Pygmy Nuthatch. You can make out the grayish crown, and the short, stubby tail and apparent pattern also suggests nuthatch. It is a cavity nester in coastal CA evergreens.

 

[ori76]

Vow, thats more IDs than I expected. That Omao really makes me happy.

 

[ori76]

I believe #5 is Pygmy Nuthatch. You can make out the grayish crown, and the short, stubby tail and apparent pattern also suggests nuthatch. It is a cavity nester in coastal CA evergreens.

How easy is to see all those details when someone tells you.


Could it be No 1 a siberian/wandering tattler?

 

[njlarsen]

How easy is to see all those details when someone tells you.


Could it be No 1 a siberian/wandering tattler?

My gut reaction is that wandering tattler should be darker, but one never knows with a single image. Grey-tailed Tattler should be more in line with what is shown here. They can at least sometimes appear this light: http://www.birdforum.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=146720. However, Avibase mentions that species as rare/accidental on Hawaii?

Niels

 

[Doughnuteater]

3 could also be a juvenile Brazillian Cardinal.

 

[Gentoo]

Right, it's another name for Lonchura punctulata. Probably an old one since it's from a book published in 1971. It is considered a pest in rice paddies in its native country. I put a note and will try to use the more recent terminology in the future.

Best,
Jim

Rice Bird is another name for the Java Sparrow.

 

[BobTag]

Rice Bird is another name for the Java Sparrow.

Indeed; I've heard "Rice Bird" used for Java Sparrow (Lonchura oryzivora), which is a very different looking bird to that pictured above, which is indeed Lonchura punctulata.

I believe "Nutmeg Mannikin" is the name widely used in North America for this species, and "Spice Finch" is an older name. On a global basis, the correct name to use is Scaly-breasted Munia, which is what the species is known as in modern Asian field guides, where the Munia family is from!!

If memory serves me right, "Rice Bird" was also an old name that was used in some southern US states for Bobolink!

 

[ori76]

. On a global basis, the correct name to use is Scaly-breasted Munia, which is what the species is known as in modern Asian field guides, where the Munia family is from!!

I will be using the spanish name: Capuchino damero

 

[bkrownd]

is ricebird yet another name, or am I overlooking something?

According to a book I have they're also called ricebird because they caused attempts at rice farming in Hawai'i to fail.

 

[Jim M.]

3 could also be a juvenile Brazillian Cardinal.

Except that it does not look much like a juvenile Brazilian Cardinal (see this photo: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2033/2450311849_249e249343.jpg?v=0).

Rice Bird is another name for the Java Sparrow.

It is also the name used for nutmeg mannikin, at least in Hawaii. I was quoting from a book on Hawaiian birds, which even features a nutmeg mannikin on its back cover.

Best,
Jim

 

[Doughnuteater]

Except that it does not look much like a juvenile Brazilian Cardinal (see this photo: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2033/2450311849_249e249343.jpg?v=0).

I had only seen a picture of an adult Brazilian Cardinal, so I figured the juvenile would be brown like most birds. I guess I better study up before I post next time xd