ID birds of prey Germany (1 Viewer)

[McHeath]

I'm guessing juvenile Buzzards... the two birds were on a large heavily wooded island in the Neuer See in the Tiergarten in central Berlin, not accessible for pedestrians or dogs. The Tiergarten is a very large partially heavily wooded park of 230 ha, surrounded by the inner city; the lake is about 2 ha with wooded banks, is fairly shallow (1-2m?) with (at the moment) a high algae growth and has healthy populations of both fish (mainly cyprinids) and the usual urban water birds.

I got a good recording of bird 1 calling, which I'm having problems uploading (format .m4a). It was consistently of 4 screeches, being repeated at ca. 30-60 sec intervals. Bird 2 remained silent. I'll keep trying with the upload.




Many thanks in advance,
Andrew

 

[Mike Earp]

I'm guessing juvenile Buzzards... the two birds were on a large heavily wooded island in the Neuer See in the Tiergarten in central Berlin, not accessible for pedestrians or dogs. The Tiergarten is a very large partially heavily wooded park of 230 ha, surrounded by the inner city; the lake is about 2 ha with wooded banks, is fairly shallow (1-2m?) with (at the moment) a high algae and has healthy populations of both fish (mainly cyprinids) and the usual urban water birds.

I got a good recording of bird 1 calling, which I'm having problems uploading (format .m4a). It was consistently of 4 screeches, being repeated at ca. 30-60 sec intervals. Bird 2 remained silent. I'll keep trying with the upload.


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Many thanks in advance,
Andrew

Goshawks?

 

[KenM]

Goshawks.

Cheers

 

[McHeath]

View attachment Bird call.mp3

Here's the call... wouldn't Goshawks have banded breasts? And the call doesn't seem to fit...

 

[Butty]

Agree, goshawks. Juvenile(s) - streaked (not barred) central belly.

 

[McHeath]

Ok, very happy to accept the juvenile Goshawks, the stripes over the eyes would also fit that - many thanks for your quick help!

Andrew

 

[Sangahyando]

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Here's the call... wouldn't Goshawks have banded breasts? And the call doesn't seem to fit...

The call fits Goshawk better than Buzzard, though.

This is a decent example for juvenile Buzzard begging call, for contrast:

XC591194 Common Buzzard (Buteo buteo)

begging call fledged young perched, distant adult call

www.xeno-canto.org

 

[McHeath]

Yes, I'd only ever heard mature Goshawks and Buzzards before. Thanks!

 

[Gladiator96]

iirc it's a well-known site for goshawks