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Id The Thief (1 Viewer)
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West End Birder
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I tend to agree with Kingfisher, the timing seems to coincidental.
I tweeted the clip - it was the best number of retweets I have ever had about 20 in all!
I tweeted the clip - it was the best number of retweets I have ever had about 20 in all!
perterra
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Stick them in his pocket and walk out? Pretty damning
As already pointed out, remember stuff on the internet never disappears. The person to the left may well be a totally innocent bystander - have you never spoken to a fellow customer in an optics showroom? If the thief is caught, and if it is established that others on the video played no part in the theft, I hope all those happy to incriminate will remember to come back onto the thread and point out the error in their thinking.
Given the reputation of potentially innocent people are being tarnished, I think Bird Forum should be thinking quite carefully about the posting of such threads. Why are the faces of those not under consideration, for example the man a few moments later, not being blacked out?
The Kingfisher
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Note also how the man no 2 is taking a step forward and stand with his stomach against the dealer. In this way he makes himself bigger and obscure more!
The Kingfisher
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Clive A
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Theft of bins is the ultimate crime for any birder, but theft of bins from who?
Theft of bins from me, you, every day people, or from a large corporation who probably pays it's staff the minimum wage and over charges massively and probably price fixes with it's competitors, I will not lose any sleep.
Theft of bins from me, you, every day people, or from a large corporation who probably pays it's staff the minimum wage and over charges massively and probably price fixes with it's competitors, I will not lose any sleep.
Interesting stance from moderators - a joke that it looks like a Swedish guy gets deleted, but threads implying the bystander behind the suspect is an obvious part of the criminal act are permitted.
Given the bystander can clearly be identified by the photograph, there are potentially quite negative repercussions of a string of threads on a public internet forum accusing him of theft. It is not the job of Bird Forum to start posting images of groups of people in a shop and then allow members to start publically posting accusations of criminal activities. Let the police do it - we do not even know of the police have talked to this gentleman or not, etc etc.
Given the bystander can clearly be identified by the photograph, there are potentially quite negative repercussions of a string of threads on a public internet forum accusing him of theft. It is not the job of Bird Forum to start posting images of groups of people in a shop and then allow members to start publically posting accusations of criminal activities. Let the police do it - we do not even know of the police have talked to this gentleman or not, etc etc.
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Paul Jarvis
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If your on Facebook it's all on Lancashire police , skelmersdale police , ormskirk police , Lancashire walks and wild life , viewpoint optics. The net is spread far and wide for the thief just a matter of time I hope. There was also other thefts from the exhibition.
Clive A
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Indeed, it's a police job , but I still don't care.
The Kingfisher
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*Yawn*.... |=\|
No one has posted images in THIS thread..just linked to other sites/threads!
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Well, given you don't even post under your real name, I don't suppose you would be very happy if you found your photograph on a public forum with posters openly suggesting you were a thief.
Maybe this guy is involved, maybe not, but it is not the place of Bird Forum to allow potentially damaging libel to be propagated.
But posting in your comfortable anonymous position, you have been happy to repeatedly accuse an identifiable person of theft. On a public forum, this never disappears - if he is innocent, this could damage his reputation. You however remain anonymous, nice.
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The Kingfisher
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Isn't it Bill Oddie?
But you have suggested that Bill Oddie may be the thief. Do you find it okay? If I were Bill Oddie, I had not liked to be accused in this way...
eddy the eagle
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Clive A,you are also the loser as retailers allow for shoplifting thefts in their retail price so we are all losers when purchasing goods.If there was no theft whatsoever by staff or public then the goods could be retailed at a much lower price.You are obviously one of those persons that condones theft as long as it doesn't affect you.A thief is a thief is a thief.It affects us all.....Eddy
I presume you know who Bill Oddie is, the comedian actor who works for optics companies promoting binoculars? I presume you saw the smilie?
If you can't distinguish between a joke based on a faint resemblance to a public figure who actually works with binoculars and potential libel, then so be it. As said, openly accusing an identifiable person of theft on a public forum has the potential to be damaging to that person, regardless of actual innocence or guilt. Bird Forum should be better than that.
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The Kingfisher
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No, I do not know who Bill Oddie is. I saw your smiley, but all visitors in an open forum as birdforum may not know what the sign
means. Or know who Bill Oddie is. Then it is easy to misunderstand your post! 
RafaelMatias
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West End Birder
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Oh that Bill Oddie. I thought you meant the Bill Oddie who was doing time for armed robbery.
dantheman
Bah humbug
My first thoughts were that the guy resembled a cross between Bill Oddie and John McCririck. But I guess that, in this instance at least, we can discount the hybrid theory straight away?
(The guy who may be innocent of course. And the other two I mention I would think we can safely say are probably not even involved at all?)
If LGRE (who is also probably innocent imo) thought he'd seen the guy, it could have been that he was checking out mannerisms/clothing etc in order to appear as a genuine birder at the event for these allegedly nefarious purposes. Or that there is someone else out there whom he resembles. If 4 pairs of bins went awol I'd imagine it could be real criminals. Real Birders wouldn't stoop so low, surely? Or a natural progression from other 'collecting' pastimes?
And the chances of the facial hair and hat not being seen for quite some while again seems quite likely imo ...
Sad sad world, I agree, although of course there's far worse things going on out there.
(The guy who may be innocent of course. And the other two I mention I would think we can safely say are probably not even involved at all?)
If LGRE (who is also probably innocent imo) thought he'd seen the guy, it could have been that he was checking out mannerisms/clothing etc in order to appear as a genuine birder at the event for these allegedly nefarious purposes. Or that there is someone else out there whom he resembles. If 4 pairs of bins went awol I'd imagine it could be real criminals. Real Birders wouldn't stoop so low, surely? Or a natural progression from other 'collecting' pastimes?
And the chances of the facial hair and hat not being seen for quite some while again seems quite likely imo ...
Sad sad world, I agree, although of course there's far worse things going on out there.
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The Kingfisher
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I agree with you. It would have been much much worse if the man had stolen a Nikon EDG... |8)|
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