Is this bird a young Rose-breasted Grosbeak? (1 Viewer)

At times I do see the Rose-breasted Grosbeak in the Fall. This is the firs time I have seen this young one in the winter.
I got a picture of the young one and the mother. I'm I right? Thanks. The baby looks more red in this photo. Different lighting?

 

[KC Foggin]

Hi ya Ella!

I think these two are also a juvenile and female Purple Finch but let's see what others have to say

 

[Deerbird]

Hi ya Ella!

I think these two are also a juvenile and female Purple Finch but let's see what others have to say

I do have Purple Finches here now. Thanks for your help KC. Hope to have a better New Year

 

[KC Foggin]

Thanks for your help KC. Hope to have a better New Year

Me too Ella

 

[raymie]

Purple Finches.

 

[AwolBirder]

At times I do see the Rose-breasted Grosbeak in the Fall. This is the firs time I have seen this young one in the winter.
I got a picture of the young one and the mother. I'm I right? Thanks. The baby looks more red in this photo. Different lighting?View attachment 1361648View attachment 1361649

Actually, I think that the top one very well might be a Pine Siskin. Notice that they both share slightly yellow wing bars. Here is a picture of one:

 

[AwolBirder]

I took another look and my doubts came back. That is really hard to tell.

 

[KC Foggin]

Ya know, I believe Awol is correct as to the top pic. Looks more like a Pine Siskin.

 

[TooMuchFun]

I'm not familiar with how their beaks change as the Pine Siskins mature, but do they look different to anyone else? It seems like the adult Pine Siskin has a longer, more pointed beak than the submitted photos.

The eyebrow on the submitted photo also seems reminiscent of a female House Sparrow; does anyone know if adolescent House Sparrows sport this marking?

 

[Deerbird]

I believe that it is a Pine Siskin. What year was this photo put up? I have learned more over the years about the birds and their names.