Lab grown meat (1 Viewer)

[jurek]

There was a discussion about this topic, so perhaps interesting.

As I suspected - when cost of producing nutrients, antibiotics and all infrastructure of growing lab meat is calculated, lab grown meat is less environmentally friendly than normal meat.

"cultured meat production could emit between four to 25 times more carbon dioxide per kilogram than regular beef and all its hidden costs, depending on the techniques used.
"This is an important conclusion given that investment dollars have specifically been allocated to this sector with the thesis that this product will be more environmentally friendly than beef," UCD food scientist Derrick Risner and colleagues write in their paper."

Lab-Grown Meat Has a Big Problem Very Few People Know About

In spite of advances in making laboratory-cultured meat products taste like the real deal, we're yet to see a single factory pumping chicken nuggets out of a vat.

www.sciencealert.com

Environmental impacts of cultured meat: A cradle-to-gate life cycle assessment

Interest in animal cell-based meat (ACBM) or cultured meat as a viable environmentally conscious replacement for livestock production has been increasing, however a life cycle assessment for the current production methods of ACBM has not been conducted. Currently, ACBM products are being...

www.biorxiv.org

Not discussed at all is the societal / inequality problem: society potentially will become hostage of few factories and corporations controling lab food production. From the usual Western greedy CEOs, through dictators wishing to starve the disobedient citizens, to war operations destroying the country's entire food supply in few drone raids.

 

[snoopx]

It'll be lab grown meat and insects.
You vill eat bugs end be heppy!

 

[Ignatius]

N.B. I am a long-time vegetarian both for ethical and health reasons, and this image is just for fun.

 

[Original PaulE]

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N.B. I am a long-time vegetarian both for ethical and health reasons, and this image is just for fun.

Won or stolen?

 

[Andy Lakin]

There was a discussion about this topic, so perhaps interesting.

As I suspected - when cost of producing nutrients, antibiotics and all infrastructure of growing lab meat is calculated, lab grown meat is less environmentally friendly than normal meat.

"cultured meat production could emit between four to 25 times more carbon dioxide per kilogram than regular beef and all its hidden costs, depending on the techniques used.
"This is an important conclusion given that investment dollars have specifically been allocated to this sector with the thesis that this product will be more environmentally friendly than beef," UCD food scientist Derrick Risner and colleagues write in their paper."

Lab-Grown Meat Has a Big Problem Very Few People Know About

In spite of advances in making laboratory-cultured meat products taste like the real deal, we're yet to see a single factory pumping chicken nuggets out of a vat.

www.sciencealert.com

Environmental impacts of cultured meat: A cradle-to-gate life cycle assessment

Interest in animal cell-based meat (ACBM) or cultured meat as a viable environmentally conscious replacement for livestock production has been increasing, however a life cycle assessment for the current production methods of ACBM has not been conducted. Currently, ACBM products are being...

www.biorxiv.org

Not discussed at all is the societal / inequality problem: society potentially will become hostage of few factories and corporations controling lab food production. From the usual Western greedy CEOs, through dictators wishing to starve the disobedient citizens, to war operations destroying the country's entire food supply in few drone raids.

Thanks for the links sounds very interesting I will have a read when I've got 5 minutes. As I predicted on another thread it is obviously a lot more complicated than it may appear at first sight. I would imagine that it would only be the ginormous companies that would have the funds to build the infrastructure to scale this up. Surely you would need billions just to get a foot in the door.

I'm guessing that once the technology is there to scale up operations drastically the groups of investors that have put a few million in will sell up to the multinationals anyway.

A lot of people are championing insects both as human and animal food, but I don't know how far along they have got with the calculations veesus producing meat based protein.

 

[Barred Wobbler]

Given a choice between leg of lamb or leg of grasshopper, I'm cutting the mint for the sauce.

 

[jurek]

You vill eat bugs end be heppy!

Here comes again the societal / inequality problem: bureaucrats in Brussels dine fine and take car and plane journeys paid by others but spin programs like feeding insects to people or making cars and airplane flights too expensive to the poor.

I guess there should be a law on a similar principle as the environmental law that every factory taking water must have water intake below its own sewage output: every politician voting for eating insects, banning combustion cars etc. should compulsory be forbidden from eating meat, compulsory ride ly a bicycle or a tram etc. It would do amazing things to make politicians more sensible.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Wouldn't emmisions be offset by not losing thousands of acres in the Amazon every year, theoretically of course, were enough people to eat it.

 

[Andy Lakin]

Not listened to this yet but might be interesting. It seems that the facts,figures around this are changing very rapidly as we learn more. The range in figures quoted on various sources is huge so a great deal of guesstimation at present.

 

[Andy Lakin]

One fact I picked up from that podcast is that global meat consumption will increase by 73% by 2050! Obviously there can't be just one solution. Surelu we should focus on ensuring that nobody in the world is starving/ malnourished first. I totally appreciate that people want/ like to eat meat especially as some of the developing countries are becoming more prosperous, but the experts generally agree that humans will get adequate protein from a balanced diet even without meat products.

I was asking Google on the way to work the projections for the world population. Bizzarely there was a massive difference in predictions with some authorities predicting a drop and another (the UN) predicting the world population at over 10 billion by 2100!