Lady amtherst pheasant , flitwick (3 Viewers)

[Bewick]

Not changed your argument - you have constantly equated the likelihood of potential vagrants with the pheasant in terms of being escapes, hence asking why twitchers go to see them. I don't think this is the case and I suppose most birders also do not.

I haven’t- my argument wasn’t equating them, my point was whether it was any better to go see a duck that is most likely an escape then to see a pheasant that is an escape. I don’t believe it is, I think it’s better to see an animal because irks genuinely something you want to see rather then go due to it’s rarity.

 

[kingjack]

I have not changed your argument - you have constantly equated the likelihood of potential vagrants with the pheasant in terms of being escapes, hence asking why twitchers go to see them. I don't think this is the case and I suppose most birders also do not.

The reason for my comments is because this pheasant, in flitwick suddenly vanished, but nobody is saying anything ,The person claiming to own it, apparently has not said anything, their Facebook page says nothing, they have another Facebook page, flitwick town,, with a thread about the bird,I can not view any of that ,I do not use Facebook, There was only one lady amtherst pheasant, It was wild, some say there are reports of people stealing it, It was seen on people's garages ect but that is because the bird watchers were following it through the wood, and others were tracking it along the adjacent footpath that runs along the wood/road side, and the numerous people walking dogs, that particular wooded area is very narrow, the pheasant would have had to run somewhere else, The reports I am told are that some dubious people bundled it into a bin bag, and hurried away, that is on a thread on one of those facebook pages,,If it turns out, it was an escaped bird then the owners would have notified those facebook pages and indeed the birdwatchers.....If any of you have access to any of those websites, IE bird guides,Facebook, please ask,

 

[pppppvvvv]

The reports I am told are that some dubious people bundled it into a bin bag, and hurried away, that is on a thread on one of those facebook pages,,

Ah yes, the list of British wild animals that can be bundled into a bin bag keeps growing ..
Slug,
Snail,
Earthworm,
Frog,
Lady Amhersts Pheasant

 

[Timbirder3]

It sounds like these dubious people were pheasant pluckers!!!

 

[opisska]

I think this topic is increasingly creating an unpheasant atmosphere!

 

[kingjack]

There are 2 males in that location right now, kingjack. As I have mentioned earlier, I am aware of sightings past the 28th January and onwards, so the information going around that it was "removed" days prior is false.
If you want to see it, visit Manor Park. There is a narrow strip of wood running parallel to the road, I took photos of the pheasant there. Back on the 15th, there was a wild bird there, which is the one I and a lot of others saw, but around the 20th a second bird appeared, which was immediately confirmed as an escapee. Numerous reports on birdguides, ebird and RBA confirm that there are 2 males now.
Don't be concerned with all the ruckus about this bird. Some consider Colin the cuckoo not a genuinely wild bird because it is used to humans and artificially fed, and some disregard the great bustards in the UK despite photographic evidence of breeding taking place. It is up to you to decide if and when you decide to visit.
Do be warned, though, the bird I saw is extremely elusive

Thankyou, but the other bird watchers say there was only one, wild in its behaviour, the story of there been another male amtherst was they say made up in order for someone to steal it,,,the people claiming to own this bird were misleading, Nobody has seen the bird, it seems to have vanished, But nobody has said anything, If bizarrely it was an escaped bird then the owners would be obliged to let people know , IE that the bird is home again ect,,,But the flitwick Facebook pages, which have threads about the bird have not mentioned anything since,,I do not have Facebook so I can not look at those stories and can not ask them,Somebody should enquire as to the amtherst situation,

 

[Dr.Boletus]

Thankyou, but the other bird watchers say there was only one, wild in its behaviour, the story of there been another male amtherst was they say made up in order for someone to steal it,,,the people claiming to own this bird were misleading, Nobody has seen the bird, it seems to have vanished, But nobody has said anything, If bizarrely it was an escaped bird then the owners would be obliged to let people know , IE that the bird is home again ect,,,But the flitwick Facebook pages, which have threads about the bird have not mentioned anything since,,I do not have Facebook so I can not look at those stories and can not ask them,Somebody should enquire as to the amtherst situation,

There are 2, I can confirm that as a fact. Or, were 2, the second appeared around the 20th. I don't know how it was confirmed as an escape, but the one before that was verified as of unknown origin for a very long time.
Yes, I agree that the 'owner' of the bird is not the owner, because she has made outrageous mistakes about the bird's gender which in my eyes immediately and unquestionably rules out ownership.
When the bird first appeared, no-one reported any escapes (unlike with the second...), and when I saw it, I was observing a wild bird which was showing distinctive signs of being wild, completely unlike what I would expect a captive bird to behave like.
I do not know anything about the Facebook threads, except that it all sounds like extreme trolling. As does Twitter, where people have been making fun of people's year lists which included the bird (mine does as well). I do, however, know as a fact that it was seen on the 28th Jan, and afterwards.
Bottom line is, if you want to see it, do go and see it, and decide for yourself what you think it is.
Ultimately, lack of 'observations' could be down to a lot of reasons. Claims abound like wildfire, and nobody will chase after it if Birdguides and RBA stop reporting it, which lost interest the moment the captive individual appeared.
Time to stop entertaining this and go see Slimbridge's wild cranes (which are never reported on Birdguides/RBA, note that)

 

[Mono]

The Facebook post in the "Focus on Flitwick" Group was started by someone who had the bird in their garden, having landed on their conservatory roof.

 

[Welsh Peregrine]

What exactly is the evidence for there being two birds?

 

[kingjack]

Do you know who it was that reported the second bird as been an escaped bird?, The two have not been together, how could they tell it was two different birds, It is the women whom made those claims month later that caused confusion,.....I would go to Flitwick,and stay a while to search but there have been recent reports, I think someone should look at that Facebook page and directly ask those people to be honest ,..

 

[kingjack]

The Facebook post in the "Focus on Flitwick" Group was started by someone who had the bird in their garden, having landed on their conservatory roof.

That's where the the person whom claimed to own the bird started posting, apparently they do not own a pheasant, and it messed up everything, Should ask them

 

[kingjack]

What exactly is the evidence for there being two birds?

It is people on Facebook confusing everything, their ocal town council also have a thread

 

[Mono]

Facebook is free, you can setup an account in seconds and ask the questions yourself.

 

[kingjack]

There are 2, I can confirm that as a fact. Or, were 2, the second appeared around the 20th. I don't know how it was confirmed as an escape, but the one before that was verified as of unknown origin for a very long time.
Yes, I agree that the 'owner' of the bird is not the owner, because she has made outrageous mistakes about the bird's gender which in my eyes immediately and unquestionably rules out ownership.
When the bird first appeared, no-one reported any escapes (unlike with the second...), and when I saw it, I was observing a wild bird which was showing distinctive signs of being wild, completely unlike what I would expect a captive bird to behave like.
I do not know anything about the Facebook threads, except that it all sounds like extreme trolling. As does Twitter, where people have been making fun of people's year lists which included the bird (mine does as well). I do, however, know as a fact that it was seen on the 28th Jan, and afterwards.
Bottom line is, if you want to see it, do go and see it, and decide for yourself what you think it is.
Ultimately, lack of 'observations' could be down to a lot of reasons. Claims abound like wildfire, and nobody will chase after it if Birdguides and RBA stop reporting it, which lost interest the moment the captive individual appeared.
Time to stop entertaining this and go see Slimbridge's wild cranes (which are never reported on Birdguides/RBA, note that)

Some of the people search for the pheasant in flitwick mentioned they saw cranes, wild or common,? There is a lake and river running through that area

 

[kingjack]

Hmdo yo

There are 2, I can confirm that as a fact. Or, were 2, the second appeared around the 20th. I don't know how it was confirmed as an escape, but the one before that was verified as of unknown origin for a very long time.
Yes, I agree that the 'owner' of the bird is not the owner, because she has made outrageous mistakes about the bird's gender which in my eyes immediately and unquestionably rules out ownership.
When the bird first appeared, no-one reported any escapes (unlike with the second...), and when I saw it, I was observing a wild bird which was showing distinctive signs of being wild, completely unlike what I would expect a captive bird to behave like.
I do not know anything about the Facebook threads, except that it all sounds like extreme trolling. As does Twitter, where people have been making fun of people's year lists which included the bird (mine does as well). I do, however, know as a fact that it was seen on the 28th Jan, and afterwards.
Bottom line is, if you want to see it, do go and see it, and decide for yourself what you think it is.
Ultimately, lack of 'observations' could be down to a lot of reasons. Claims abound like wildfire, and nobody will chase after it if Birdguides and RBA stop reporting it, which lost interest the moment the captive individual appeared.
Time to stop entertaining this and go see Slimbridge's wild cranes (which are never reported on Birdguides/RBA, note that

 

[kingjack]

Do you know whom it was that reported an escaped pheasant, regards this second one, ? I think those reports have caused confusion, I would go to Flitwick but, there has been no recent reports

 

[Phil Andrews]

Kingjack - as suggested by Mono just sign up to Facebook and ask all these questions yourself rather than posing then rhetorically on here and urging others to do so.

 

[kingjack]

Kingjack - as suggested by Mono just sign up to Facebook and ask all these questions yourself rather than posing then rhetorically on here and urging others to do so.

Not so, I do not have or wish to own a Facebook page for reasons, But other people do and can easily view the pages mentioning the pheasant, You mentioned Bedfordshire in your previous comment , your not far from flitwick, are there any other Bedfordshire web sites reporting sightings of the amtherst pheasant?

 

[Phil Andrews]

If you're not prepared to do the legwork yourself on a subject thats clearly troubling you daily then i take the view (and i woukd like to think im a generlly helpful soul on BF) there is no compulsion on others to assist.

 

[dantheman]

If you're not prepared to do the legwork yourself on a subject thats clearly troubling you daily then i take the view (and i woukd like to think im a generlly helpful soul on BF) there is no compulsion on others to assist.

Except that refusing to join Facebook may be seen as an admirable thing in some quarters ...

;-)