Lesser Redpoll between Rutland and Nottingham (1 Viewer)

[jlcopete]

Dear all,

I would need to know whether there is some spot located between Rutland (BirdFair) and around Nottingham, to try to watch Lesser Redpoll. I'm attending the BirdFair on Friday night, and having a spare time on Sundat afternoon and Monday morning, I'd be most grateful for advice to arrive to some spot where Lesser Redpoll would be guaranteed, despite we are in August (moulting time).

Thanks in advance for any feedback,

All the best,

José Luis Copete
Barcelona, Spain

 

[Richard Klim]

José.

Sorry, I can't offer any site info for that area, but hopefully others can help...

As a member of the Lynx/HBW team, you must be aware that BirdLife lumped all redpoll taxa into a single species in 2012 – presumably this treatment will be adopted in HBW/BirdLife Illustrated Checklist Vol 2 (Passerines)?

But of course it's worth seeing cabaret anyway!

 

[jlcopete]

José.

Sorry, I can't offer any site info for that area, but hopefully others can help...

As a member of the Lynx/HBW team, you must be aware that BirdLife lumped all redpoll taxa into a single species in 2012 – presumably this treatment will be adopted in HBW/BirdLife Illustrated Checklist Vol 2 (Passerines)?

But of course it's worth seeing cabaret anyway!

Hi, Richard

Yes I know about the lump. It's not so unexpected to me, after some reseach published already years ago (by Jan Lifjeld) in Norwegian journals, and more recently his same team (Gunnhild Marthinsen et al) proposing all taxa as one species. However I don't know which result will be after applying the scoring system by Tobias et al (2010) as has been applied in the new Checklist, which you for sure know.

The cabaret is actually not a tick for me, but for my companion during our assistance to the BirdFair. But it's always of interest to see different taxa, being these accepted or not as independent species!

Let's hope some British birder could help us about the latter!

All the best,

José Luis

 

[Nutcracker]

Look in heathland with scattered young Pinus / Betula.

EDIT: sad to say, almost none mapped in the requested area in the Bird Atlas 2007-11.

you must be aware that BirdLife lumped all redpoll taxa into a single species in 2012

Sensible; the only realistic options are one species, or six. Two or three species options don't fit the data.