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Luxury Binoculars for Hawkwatching (8 Viewers)

carjug

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I broke down and bought a really really nice pair of bins. They are fantastic by any standard and cost at least a month's pay. Super clear glass, wide field of view, handle like jewelry, these suckers are sweet. Will they make me a better hawkwatcher? NO. Will they make hawkwatching more fun? YES. Are they good for anything else, warblers, the backyard? Yes. Old Uncle carjug is a happy birdwatcher. Stargazer too.
My previous set was a nice pair of 10x50s with nice glass and a narrow field of view. (Scrunched.) I became jealous of a woman at our hawkwatch who had a pair of awesome little Swarovorskys. She was spotting birds right and left. I wanted that wide field and good glass. I wanted to spot those birds first. I also wanted to see the darn Buzzards better. I began the miserable process of shopping the internet for new binoculars.
The first thing I looked at was lens size. Big glass soaks up more light than little glass, so I started looking at the 56 millimeter size ones. The prices ranged from one paycheck to four paychecks, and reviews were hard to find. The cheapest of the bunch had mixed reviews, and I finally coughed up a good chunk out of my bank account. B&H Fedexed them to my house, and I had to be home to sign for them. I went outside after lunch and found them on the porch. I took the buggers out and compared them with my old set. They weighed like two bottles of Bud, and required a binocular bra. (Men with gender insecurity can call it a harness). They showed about twice the area of view as the old 10x50s, and were bright as the dickens.
I've since looked at plenty of Vultures, searched for springtime RTHAs and other migrants on high hills near my home. The rubber lens caps could be a lot better, but that's my only complaint. They put my scope to shame.
I don't know if brand makes a difference, the ones I got were Zeiss. Vortex used to make "Vultures" with the same lens size, and I'm sure Leica and Nikon and Swearingovsky do some nice work. The rejected brand was Kowa, I became suspicious of their reviews. More power to you if you get a bad case of the "I wants".
 
They are Zeiss 10x56s, for what it's worth. There is so little advice for hawkwatchers concerning binoculars, and less on scopes. I would truly welcome any know-it-all who cares to scream about a great pair of 8x40s, or a scope with a wide field of view that doesn't cost a second mortgage.
.. The bins I got are marketed to hunters, claiming to add a few minutes of light to an outing. Nobody markets optics to hawkwatchers,
 
They are Zeiss 10x56s, for what it's worth. There is so little advice for hawkwatchers concerning binoculars, and less on scopes. I would truly welcome any know-it-all who cares to scream about a great pair of 8x40s, or a scope with a wide field of view that doesn't cost a second mortgage.
.. The bins I got are marketed to hunters, claiming to add a few minutes of light to an outing. Nobody markets optics to hawkwatchers,
Hawk watching just isn't as common and usually uses the same optics as normal birding. Wider angle is wiser to use for spotting but normal bins get the job done if you're decent at aiming. The Zeiss 10x56's are nice bins! Have fun with them!
 
That's probably true, I just tried to find a similar reference in Hawks In Flight and failed . Everyone is different, what works optically for one person may stink for another
Last night I sat on my porch with the fancy new bins and an old set of Nikon Monarchs, 8x42s . The new bins performed better, brighter and closer as twilight deepened. They also weighed three times as much and cost five times more.
Our site leader at the fall hawkwatch got a very nice set of bins two years ago. 10x40s to die for. She started getting more birds, and enjoying seeing more. Money doesn't buy happiness, just increases your bargaining power.
 
Page 8, Hawks at a Distance. Liguori goes on to talk about scopes. Field of view, quality of optics, time on the hill.
Maybe when the rain lets up, it will be a good time to check the local Eagle's nest, or see if the Red-Tails are still kiting on the ridge behind the old borrow pit. Time on the hill!!!
 
I've got an old pair of swift 10 x 50s of course the optics don't compare with modern binoculars..
But they have a great feature, you can screw them on to a tripod.
Ideal for sea watching, nest watching and I imagine hawk watching.
I don't think any modern binoculars have this feature.
But I am curious to know if I am wrong.?
 
Wrong!!!
Great for astronomy. Orion,s belt, the Moon, the tail of the Scorpion, and the Andromeda Galaxy. Telescopes and fancy cameras are overrated. Have fun!
You misunderstood I have been bird watching for nearly 50 years .and I know the size (more importantly weight makes 10 x 50s inpractical.for general use I personally used Optolyth Alpin 10 x 40 (light as a feather) and now leica ultravid 10 x 42.,and also found leica 10 x 20s, great you slip them in a pocket when not " bird watching" ie in a city or driving ."Just in case " .
I left the swift 10 x 50 s on a table in my back bedroom overlooking the garden where I could rest my elbows on the window ledge or if a bird "came over " holding the binoculars for a few minutes wasn't a problem.

I have not done US hawk watching ,but my belief is that they do it at "bottlenecks" normally on mountains., and I wondered if tripod mounted binoculars would be useful in that scenario?

My whole point was I believe binoculars mounted on a tripod so you do not have to worry about weight.could be useful in certain situations, as I said ie nest watching .
And my main question was do any modern 10 x 50s have the ability to simply screw on a tripod without any adapters?
Which you didn't answer.
 
Most of the current cannon's have a tripod thread at the bottom of their casing to attach directly to a tripod foot and most other binoculars can be attached by a conventional binocular tripod adapter that usually threads in to the far end of the bridge (closest to the objectives). There is a wide variety available.
 

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I monopod mount my 10x50 for night time use and it makes it so much easier to see fainter stars as it removes the handshake and takes the weight. Many binos have a tripod screw in the front. Wide fields with scopes are uncommon, zooms tend to get narrow as you zoom out. If you have trouble getting on target with a scope I recommend the “cable tie finder”, lets you view birds in flight quite repeatably.
Does hawk watching need a large exit pupil for twilight observing (like you’d need for owls)?
 
Ultravids? I'm green with envy!!
... I tried the hawkwatching thing with bins, it didn't work out. I had a pair of mid quality 15x60s mounted on a tripod, they were worthless. They were straight, not angled, which made them uncomfortable to use. The wide field of view was nice for observing, but on a tripod was still too SLOW. The 15 power was inadequate. I loaned them to an experienced hawkwatcher, he was glad to have something better than nothing .
... The 15x60s we're fun for rooftop stargazing, but they mostly gathered dust. Useless for birdwatching because of shake. I eventually gave them away to a college student co-worker.
,,, In my neck of the woods, we have small mountains, and some windswept ridges. The Hawks are either miles away, or screaming past. Things are either Sunday picnic quiet, or frantic.
 

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