Mariefred, Sweden - Willow or Marsh Tit (1 Viewer)

[monkeygoblin]

Hello all

I have a couple of pictures of a Tit, quite how to differentiate between the two is beyond me. I know to listen out for the call but this wee one was as quiet as a mouse.

There is also a 30 second video that I have uploaded to 'Streamable'...
https://streamable.com/t4wor

Unfortunately the video is mainly of its nether regions!

Anyone have an idea?

All the best

M

 

[esmondb]

Clear pale mark on upper mandible (pic 4) - Marsh tit

 

[vanellus]

Hmm! No obvious wing panel or white spot to gape. Neat bib, but not a clear side on view to see if it is bull-necked or rounder headed. Looks nearer to Marsh, but look forward to wiser answers than mine.

 

[sicklebill]

Cap looks glossy to me and bib small and neat so I'd go for Marsh. This bill mark stuff may not be 100% as i saw a Willow Tit at Karuizawa in Japan with a pale bill mark.

 

[Nutcracker]

This bill mark stuff may not be 100% as i saw a Willow Tit at Karuizawa in Japan with a pale bill mark.

It was published in respect of the UK endemic subspecies of both species - not sure if it has been tested at all for other subspecies.

 

[arcadillor]

marsh tit

 

[Jos Stratford]

It was published in respect of the UK endemic subspecies of both species - not sure if it has been tested at all for other subspecies.

Not 100% in European populations either. Marsh Tit for this bird.

 

[monkeygoblin]

Thank you all, much appreciated.

An overall consensus makes me very happy =)