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New Ivory-billed Woodpecker info (2 Viewers)
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temmie
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A well written article, but unfortunately no conclusive evidence.
I'll resume:
7 'definite' observations but not one with photographic evidence.
No conclusive audio recordings.
Trail camera images (too) poor.
All 'evidence' is 'suggestive'
Just one good picture could have saved a lot of time writing articles based on suggestive evidence. I understand people behind the article already spend a lot of time, just to come up with vague pictures and videos. I understand the terrain is challenging, but the reasoning "because of the endangered status of the species and ongoing research concerns, we omit specific location details." isn't going to help discover the species.
What's the logic behind hiding the potentially best locations for birders (lots of them carrying cameras that take better shots in the dark than any of the so-called evidence in the article)?
I'll resume:
7 'definite' observations but not one with photographic evidence.
No conclusive audio recordings.
Trail camera images (too) poor.
All 'evidence' is 'suggestive'
Just one good picture could have saved a lot of time writing articles based on suggestive evidence. I understand people behind the article already spend a lot of time, just to come up with vague pictures and videos. I understand the terrain is challenging, but the reasoning "because of the endangered status of the species and ongoing research concerns, we omit specific location details." isn't going to help discover the species.
What's the logic behind hiding the potentially best locations for birders (lots of them carrying cameras that take better shots in the dark than any of the so-called evidence in the article)?
DMW
Well-known member
Even if this was the optimum method, which I'm certain it isn't, encouraging people to go out into remote swamp forest, climb trees and collect debris from Woodpecker nests seems somewhat foolhardy, not to mention a recipe to disturb wildlife.
Farnboro John
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I am still convinced that this bird is extinct.
John
John
Frank van Drogen
Not so important
I have not seen any data that contradicts that hypothesis.
But, since it is impossible to proof the absence of a species, we'll probably continue seeing articles and the like claiming evidence of the existence of IBW.
Andy Adcock
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No. Just sample e DNA. End of
Not sure it would easily work for an "allegedly" extant but extremelly rare species.
Why not? It does for definitely extant but extremely rare species...
Andy Adcock
Worst person on Birdforum
Where will you aquire it, I thought we were looking for a non, intrusive approach?
Andy Adcock
Worst person on Birdforum
Thanks, just read a bit about the method which seems to be limited to water borne DNA deposits, how can that be used to look for a 'rare' at the most optimistic, Woodpecker?
X-MOL
www.x-mol.net
Nope... E.g.
DNA from air could revolutionize the way we measure animal biodiversity, say scientists
Two independent research groups detect the presence of animals by collecting DNA from air
www.qmul.ac.uk
jurek
Well-known member
They really need to invest in higher resolution cameras, and place them closer, so that when the bird shows itself, it will be good and unequivocal picture.
They could look for sponsorship of some TV channel, or trailcam manufacturer.
Environmental DNA from tree holes makes sense. It would be a legit ecological research on its own right, completely possible to find a sponsor. Do not mention the Ivory-billed Woodpecker at all. Study what species use tree holes, are old hollow trees critical, are all holes equally valuable for wildlife etc. Lots of important questions with big impact on conservation and forestry.
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