Nong Song Hong, Thailand - Freckle-breasted Woodpecker quite sure, Robson gives only Fulvous-breasted? (1 Viewer)

[Bertus]

eBird and several other sites give for the Fulvous-breasted ( Dendrocopos Macei) a range map outside Thailand. And instead I find Freckle-breasted (Dendrocops Analis), not in Robson's book, having a range map that shops obs exactly here. I have seen this woodpecker many times now, is not shy at all, quite small, scattered trees in open country. How could Robson give a map of a species that does not occur in Thailand? or...?

 

[Larry Sweetland]

The species has been split

 

[Bertus]

Tnx for that, my Robson's edition is of 2016. So before it was one species, that is understandable. So that is why Robson does not mention the species I guess. But then still the range map of the Fulvous-breasted in Robson's does not ring a bell with me. The map in Ebird is completely different. Robson's map for the Fulvous-breasted does not match either species range maps in eBird. That is https://ebird.org/species/fubwoo2/ against https://ebird.org/species/frbwoo1/ for the Freckle-breasted. What I see wrong?

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

The species has been split

Originally I believe it was lumped with Fulvous-breasted Woodpecker D. macei but the SE population (analis group) was split and initially named Spot-breasted (Pied) Woodpecker D. analis which it is listed as in Robson 3rd Edn (2015). Since then, it was renamed Freckle-breasted Woodpecker, presumably, to avoid confusion with Spot-breasted Woodpecker of C & S America.

Grahame

 

[Bertus]

Thanks again Grahame, all worth it, very interesting birds, all of them woodpeckers...beautiful...

 

[Bertus]

Would you recommend a second guide perhaps?
Like Birds of Thailand - Dutch Birding, the book by Uthai Treesucon & Wich'yanan Limparungpatthanakij. Is there any better than these two guides anyway?

 

[THE_FERN]

(Also to note, even if not relevant in this particular case. There is no single accepted taxonomy which is everyone follows. Field guides are usually written by people who are experts on the fauna of the area. Their views of what is or isn't a species may be different to the various authorities like Clements. This will be true even if many of the main lists come to a common understanding. You should not necessarily expect different sources to agree)

 

[Bertus]

I got you, I will read more about that. Ornithology...