Semicollared Flycatcher female? Kuwait (1 Viewer)

[NicoleB]

Could it be or am I totally off the track?

Taken yesterday at the Golf course and the only shot I got

Thanks for checking & B
Nicole

 

[Cristian Mihai]

Why not a Collared Flycatcher?

 

[NicoleB]

Why not a Collared Flycatcher?

I can't find it listed for Kuwait (Not on the annotated Checklist nor at AR's Site)

Plus, I really don't see the big white patch on the wing on this one that the collared has.

PS: I go by the way the Collins has them depicted, so, not sure if that's the correct way to see it,...

 

[Simon Wates]

Seems right to me - Semi-collared - isn't the primary patch much too small for a typical Collared? Also, the white tips to the median coverts, quite evident on the photo support Semi-c. Oops I see I posted the same time as Nicole. I think there is less variation in Collared in the spring than the autumn - mind you they are variable

 

[NicoleB]

Seems right to me - Semi-collared - isn't the primary patch much too small for a typical Collared? Also, the white tips to the median coverts, quite evident on the photo support Semi-c. Oops I see I posted the same time as Nicole. I think there is less variation in Collared in the spring than the autumn - mind you they are variable

Ok, what about the Collared FC not being listed for Kuwait though?
(At least not anywhere where I could find it)

 

[Stew]

Looks like a semi-collared, which are fairly common on passage through Kuwait at this time of year.

 

[Simon Wates]

Ok, what about the Collared FC not being listed for Kuwait though?
(At least not anywhere where I could find it)

I personally don't know details of passage migrants generally in Kuwait but if its not on the (an?) official list you should submit this one as its looks pretty solid. Stew says they are regular passage migrants so the discrepancy seems strange.

Maybe somebody here can further clarify its status?

Look out for the cracking spring males - if the females are coming through in any numbers, then the males must be too!

 

[Motmot]

Not sure about the status in Kuwait but Stew was refering to Semicollared and Nicole to Collared, Simon.
Tertial design and short white bar on median coverts make me believe it's a Semicollared.

 

[Simon Wates]

Thanks Motmot, just ignore me - multitasking isn't my strong point but I thought I could at least read...

 

[NicoleB]

Thanks, everyone!

Thanks Motmot, just ignore me - multitasking isn't my strong point but I thought I could at least read...

No worries, Simon, you probably just got my reply about the collared out of context.
I was in line with the Semi-collared

I was hoping we would go back today, ..., oh well, maybe Sunday

Btw. another Lifer,...dummdidumm.....

 

[NicoleB]

Looks like a semi-collared, which are fairly common on passage through Kuwait at this time of year.

Can you tell me where you read that it's a fairly common passage migrant?

I thought I read that too, but on both, Abdul Rahman Al-Sirhan's list (which is, I think made accordingly to the OSK records) and the OSK's Checklist, I read this morning that it's an uncommon passage migrant *scratches head* - I think I DO need new glasses,...

High Density count in 2008 was a whole two of them.... so, fat chance for me to see a male *sigh*

 

[ammadoux]

Muhammad Khourshid have recorded it last week.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33762699@N06/5567684416/in/faves-ammadoux/

 

[Steve Dudley]

Tertial design and short white bar on median coverts make me believe it's a Semicollared.

Yes, I agree with Motmot here. Looks like S-C Fly for me.

 

[NicoleB]

Muhammad Khourshid have recorded it last week.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33762699@N06/5567684416/in/faves-ammadoux/

These guys always make me cry.....

Yes, I agree with Motmot here. Looks like S-C Fly for me.

Thanks

 

[ammadoux]

These guys always make me cry.....

i double that :-C

and they claim that because they use Nikon. can't see how Nikon find birds on its own.

 

[NicoleB]

These guys always make me cry.....

i double that :-C

and they claim that because they use Nikon. can't see how Nikon find birds on its own.

Many of them have switched to Canon, the gear is cheaper....

But they also make me cry, because their minimal focal lens length is 300mm upwards *doublesigh*

 

[ammadoux]

Many of them have switched to Canon, the gear is cheaper....

But they also make me cry, because their minimal focal lens length is 300mm upwards *doublesigh*

yes i meant Canon, whatever.

but really for the full frame or larger than 4/3 format i think 400mm is the least.

 

[NicoleB]

yes i meant Canon, whatever.

but really for the full frame or larger than 4/3 format i think 400mm is the least.

....rub it in....

I was hoping hubby had to go to the States and bring back the 80-400mm....but no such luck

Until then I have to work with my 18-200mm, since the prices here are just totally insane & online ordering is not an option right now!

As far as finding the birds goes,... my own fault I'm not driving here. I could go to most of the areas, but me in a car here would drive my husband nuts and I would probably end up strangling some moron

 

[Stew]

Sorry for the late reply nicole....

I base the status on personal experience. Saw several in the migrant hotspots of Jara Farms and Tulha reserve when we visited.

Stew

 

[NicoleB]

Sorry for the late reply nicole....

I base the status on personal experience. Saw several in the migrant hotspots of Jara Farms and Tulha reserve when we visited.

Stew

No worries
Thanks though!

Wish that area wasn't such a pain in the behind for me to reach