Tanager- Ecuadorian Amazon (1 Viewer)

[payaminotom]

Hi all, these are two birds I encountered together in the amazon rainforests of Ecuador. I believe they are tanagers but am unsure what type. They are grainy and imperfect pictures but I think someone with better knowledge than myself could place the species. I originally thought it was Tanagara palmarum (Palm Tanager), but the black wing bar shown clearly in these photos does not match that species. Thanks all




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[THE_FERN]

perhaps blue-and-black tanager although the bill and face pattern (as much as we can see) look wrong.

 

[Eduardoo]

I would guess it is a Palm Tanager.

 

[THE_FERN]

I would guess it is a Palm Tanager.

Wing pattern should be wrong for that species

 

[payaminotom]

I agree with @THE_FERN , I could accept that one bird may have a slightly abberant wing pattern, but both of these birds show the exact same wing pattern from a variety of different angles, it is very noticeable and is not just a trick of the light or a camera error. Trawling through online resources produces no similar photos of Palm Tanager in any position or lighting.

That said, I am not convinced by Blue-and-Black Tanager. For wing pattern it is spot on, and while we can't make out a distinctive facial pattern from these photos, the stubby bill of B-a-B just doesn't match this bird at all. So we need something with the wing of a Blue-and-Black and the head profile of a Palm Tanager

 

[THE_FERN]

I wonder if Amazonian form of blue-grey tanager can look like this, with apparent very dark and pale bars on wings given by lighting effects. Fits better in other ways

 

[payaminotom]

I wonder if Amazonian form of blue-grey tanager can look like this, with apparent very dark and pale bars on wings given by lighting effects. Fits better in other ways

You know what I think you may be right. Have a look at this screenshot from macauley library. I think given the poor light on my birds I can see the similarities, what do you think?

 

[Allen]

I wonder if Amazonian form of blue-grey tanager can look like this, with apparent very dark and pale bars on wings given by lighting effects. Fits better in other ways

That was my first thought esp having just returned from Ecuador and seen the eastern form of B-G Tanager with its white wingbars

 

[Eduardoo]

I wonder if Amazonian form of blue-grey tanager can look like this, with apparent very dark and pale bars on wings given by lighting effects. Fits better in other ways

I think you may be right.

 

[AveryBartels]

I wonder if Amazonian form of blue-grey tanager can look like this, with apparent very dark and pale bars on wings given by lighting effects. Fits better in other ways

Yes, The Fern is spot on, these are Blue-grey Tanagers

 

[payaminotom]

Thanks all for the responses, always got to remember to think of the obvious first!!