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The earliest fossil record of a piciform (1 Viewer)

Hi Folks

Does anyone have any information of the earliest fossil record of a woodpecker? In particular Europe although worldwide is good also. I am interested as part of my research for a book I am writing.

Thanks in advance

Geoffrey

 
The oldest named Picidae I can find in my notes is Piculoides saulcetensis De Pietri, Manegold, Costeur et G. Mayr, 2011.
Vanesa L. De Pietri, Albrecht Manegold, Loïc Costeur & Gerald Mayr, 2011
A New Species of Woodpecker (Aves; Picidae) from the Early Miocene of Saulcet (Allier, France)
Swiss Journal of Palaeontology 2011
Free pdf: https://www.researchgate.net/profil...t-Allier-France.pdf?origin=publication_detail

Fred
 
The oldest named Picidae I can find in my notes is Piculoides saulcetensis De Pietri, Manegold, Costeur et G. Mayr, 2011.
Vanesa L. De Pietri, Albrecht Manegold, Loïc Costeur & Gerald Mayr, 2011
A New Species of Woodpecker (Aves; Picidae) from the Early Miocene of Saulcet (Allier, France)
Swiss Journal of Palaeontology 2011
Free pdf: https://www.researchgate.net/profil...t-Allier-France.pdf?origin=publication_detail

Fred
Hi Fred.

Awesome. Many thanks for the info I will check it out.

Aye
Geoffrey
 
Hi Björn,

Dendrocopos praemedius (Jánossy, 1974), (now Leiopicus praemedius (Jánossy, 1974) is from the Late Pliocene, Piculoides saulcetensis De Pietri, Manegold, Costeur et G. Mayr, 2011 us from the Early Miocene, a difference of many years!

I don't know what rhe book is about, but I would like to say that there are close relatives of the Picidae in the fossil record, that might be much older, the earliest record of the Piciformes is from the Paleocene of Brasil: Eutreptodactylus itaboraiensis Baird et Vickers-Rich, 1997, but it is not a Woodpecker (Picidae), it is a Gracilitarsidae.

Fred
 
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Geoffrey, sorry to re-open this old topic, but I just realized (after having read some of Fred's many threads) that I caused some kind of mess in this particular one.

Just to make things a bit clearer, and/or the conversation in this thread slightly more understandable ... for you and everyone else (except for me and Fred, of course), simply to avoid possible confusion, of what's been written in this thread.

Fred is not mixed up, nope, not at all (that would be an opinion more appropriate to me!). Fred didn't confuse you with someone else (read; me) when he replied with the phrase; "Hi Björn" (in post #4). His response was only due to the fact that I (the very same morning) shortly before his reply, had posted a (very short-lived) response to your initial request, that I deleted just minutes later, simply as it turned out to that I had completely misunderstood your first post, believing you were looking for the "earliest" Authorship" of a, or any, known, verified, established, certified "piciform" bird (as in; when it was published, not when it was once Alive).

Unfortunately Fred had already replied (to me) when I pressed the 'Delete button', and (for some reason) he didn't delete the "Hi Björn" part (itself) in his justified and explanatory post.

Sorry for the mess! My bad. :rolleyes:

Either way: Good luck with your book about Picidae Woodpeckers (... or even all the Piciformes).

If you're not already finished with it (by now), of course. ;)

Björn
 
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