Upgrade to Swarovski EL? (1 Viewer)

[jackjack]

You have certainly been meticulous, but I remain unconvinced that the photos contribute objectivity.

okey I understand 😀
there is nothing like viewing in real eyes.

because as bino is not a camera lens and it's is for a real live observation that results can't be adjusted.

you can sharpen, brighten, erase ca, enhance magnification, or add color to photos
but NOT in binos
(which is the attractiveness of bino I really like and that's why many people keep multiple bino such as me...)

for example,

you can't get CA out of Leica BN to look like kowa genesis nor you can't brighten it to look like Zeiss HT nor sharpen it like EL and but you can't also color other bino like BN

also my real eye feel will have different results to some users.

 

[Maljunulo]

This whole disagreement may come down to whether or not you believe that it is possible to measure or record a subjective impression.

 

[Paultricounty]

okey I understand 😀
there is nothing like viewing in real eyes.

because as bino is not a camera lens and it's is for a real live observation that results can't be adjusted.

you can sharpen, brighten, erase ca, enhance magnification, or add color to photos
but NOT in binos
(which is the attractiveness of bino I really like and that's why many people keep multiple bino such as me...)

for example,

you can't get CA out of Leica BN to look like kowa genesis nor you can't brighten it to look like Zeiss HT nor sharpen it like EL and but you can't also color other bino like BN

also my real eye feel will have different results to some users.

I wonder how the cameras optical train, coatings and settings may have different effects when taking photos of binoculars with different glass types and coatings. Can the camera produce differences just because of the differences in the binoculars design. Will repeating these photos with different camera and different lenses produce different results.

I hope I’m getting across what I’m trying to say. 🙏

 

[Maljunulo]

Personal example.

Even though I dislike the concept of searching for flaws, I have tried my absolute damndest to see CA in both my SF 8X32 and Habicht 8X30, after reading the endless discussions of CA here.

Staring at twiglets at the tops of trees, branches further down, leaves, dark birds silhouetted against clear sky on sunny days, against solid overcast on dull days, and against white clouds on sunny days.

All attempts failed with both instruments.

(I am not colorblind)

The human eye can exhibit longitudinal chromatic aberration, so if you see it, is it the binocular?

 

[Maljunulo]

I wonder how the cameras optical train, coatings and settings may have different effects when taking photos of binoculars with different glass types and coatings. Can the camera produce differences just because of the differences in the binoculars design. Will repeating these photos with different camera and different lenses produce different results.

I think the question is a valid one, and I believe the answer is “yes”. Whether we would be able to see the difference, I don’t know.

Having said that, I have neither the resources nor the ambition to test it experimentally.

 

[Chotacabras]

Hi there! I have a pair of Leica Ultravid HD Plus binoculars, but I have heard some people say Swarovski EL is better, especially in terms of edge sharpness and chromatic aberration control. Is it worth upgrading to EL? Thanks!

Personally, and at this quality level, minor differences in things like edge sharpness and chromatic aberration aren't very relevant to me. Apart from anything else, in my experience you're looking at the centre of a binocular image, not the edges: this (and very wide field of view) are more relevant for tripod-mounted scope, where you may sometimes want to range your eye (i.e. your optical attention) across the whole field. Personally, I think it's centrally about a) robustness/longevity and b) that lovely "relaxed vision" feeling you get when you find the binoculars that are right for your particular eyesight and your particular facial anatomy. Just my view!

 

[Maljunulo]

I think that if you can compare, and the EL is “better” for you, then you should upgrade.

If you can’t tell the difference, it would be rather silly, wouldn’t it?

It’s been since September. I didn’t notice.