Warbler from the Russian Far East (1 Viewer)

[oleg2oleg]

Hi! I took a picture of this bird on small island in Peter the Great Gulf in the end of May. By the method of elimination, it should be a Phylloscopus plumbeitarsus warbler, but it doesn't even have a single strip... Or may be it is another warbler??

 

[dwatsonbirder]

One of the Arctic/Kamchatka/Sakhalin complex - nice images.

 

[oleg2oleg]

One of the Arctic/Kamchatka/Sakhalin complex - nice images.

Yes, thank you, but which one?? ))

 

[dwatsonbirder]

Although I've seen all three (I think!) I've no experience with any of the complex in spring: sound records and confirmation by someone considerably more suitably experienced than me is recommended. FWIW, your bird looks quite bright in the supercilium and across the remiges, as well as being perhaps long in the bill, suggesting Kamchatka.

 

[HouseCrow]

You can't tell the 3 species in the arctic warbler complex apart other than by sound, unfortunately.
There will be those far more experienced that will tell that it most probably is species X. But during migration surely anything can just about turn up anywhere.

cheers,
Gerben

 

[MacNara]

One of the Arctic/Kamchatka/Sakhalin complex - nice images.

I think you mean Arctic/Kamchatka/Japanese Leaf Warbler complex (although I don't think Japanese is likely in the OP area).

There is also the Sakhalin/Pale-legged Leaf Warbler pair which has also been split. The photos seem to show black legs, which should rule these out.

 

[Kandahar]

Difficult - if you heard the bird this will help. Range wise it suits the Arctic Warbler but on migration Kamchatka Leaf warblers are also possible.

 

[Grahame Walbridge]

Oleg, head pattern rules out Two-barred as does bill pattern but also, it has a minute P1 (well short of PC) and long P2 while it lacks an emargination to P6, i.e wing formula add odds with 'Greenish' complex.

The combination of strong yellow tones to supercilium and face, orange-toned bill and dark legs are at odds with PLLW/SLW's, as is the the head pattern. BTW, SLW is also apparently out of range.

It is one of the 'Arctic' complex as commented above, of which, Japanese can be excluded since its out of range so, Arctic/Kamchatka. A soundfile would be needed to identify to species level.

Grahame

 

[HouseCrow]

Could an overshooting Japanese be firmly excluded, in light of eastern crowned records in Western Europe..sure rare vagrants... But still...
Or should i read all ruling out species comments with an asterisk: not considering rare vagrants.

I should probably read it like that.

Cheers
Gerben

 

[oleg2oleg]

Oleg, head pattern rules out Two-barred as does bill pattern but also, it has a minute P1 (well short of PC) and long P2 while it lacks an emargination to P6, i.e wing formula add odds with 'Greenish' complex.

The combination of strong yellow tones to supercilium and face, orange-toned bill and dark legs are at odds with PLLW/SLW's, as is the the head pattern. BTW, SLW is also apparently out of range.

It is one of the 'Arctic' complex as commented above, of which, Japanese can be excluded since its out of range so, Arctic/Kamchatka. A soundfile would be needed to identify to species level.

Grahame

Grahame, thank you! Yes, according to the pictures it's more close to Arctic/Kamchatka, you're right. Arctic is much more often in this area, but on my mind it has more strong bill. So possible Kamchatka stopped for the rest on the small island )) Thank you and all other for the help!!

 

[dwatsonbirder]

I think you mean Arctic/Kamchatka/Japanese Leaf Warbler complex (although I don't think Japanese is likely in the OP area).

There is also the Sakhalin/Pale-legged Leaf Warbler pair which has also been split. The photos seem to show black legs, which should rule these out.

Yes indeed - Japanese (which I've not seen) rather than Sakhalin (which I have and is a completely different beast), apologies for any confusion.