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Which budget 10x to compliment my 7x bins. (1 Viewer)

Cluster

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I have a great time with my UV7x42HD and ZR7x36ED2 binoculars. I appreciate their steadier view and increased DoF but for hiking and holidays we (wife &I) take Nikon M7 8x30 bins (because I can't find a 7x that will do that job). Our main viewing is done in woodland and fairly compact habitats.

I started off using 8x porros. I found that the nearer view through my porros was not the same as an 8x roof. There was some discussion here when I posted about this, it seems that it's a perceptual thing that perhaps not all see. For me, the nearer porro view is much like a 7x but changing to a full 8x at distance.

Over time, I began to wonder if an 8x roof would give a more detailed view, not that I wanted to change from 7x for everything, but that in hides and on reserves with fairly sweeping vistas a little more might help. Trying my little 8x30 M7s from hides gives a view that is substantially the same as the 7x, but with less DoF and not as steady (plus the features that a smaller binocular adds).

Some time ago, I tried a Minox 10x42 (can't remember the model, but it was pretty much their cheapest). The performance didn't help to sell 10x to me, difficult to hold steady and a very small sweet spot. An earlier trial with a 10x42 Imagic TGA porro was a better experience as I recall. All these binoculars are long gone, so I can't compare any more.

So, here I am, wondering if a 10x will help me satisfy this particular itch. I have a budget of £200, but as ever, if something heart-stopping pops up (new or used), I reserve the right to bust that. I was interested in some of the Viking ED bins, but noticed that the Hawke 10x43 might be available for only a little over £200 (is this the same build as my ZR7x36?). Chris6 has suggested the Orion Ultraview 10x50 porro as a contender.. any others in this range?
 
I have a 8x42 HRWP and love it, not sure if I would want a similar FOV and slow focus in a 10x. The SRGA 10x might fit the bill.
 
In general, due to the inherent thinner dof etc, 'cheaper' 10x bins probably aren't going to bring the most joy for the buck bang.

If ever there was a reason to search out a better quality bin and/or one that 'fits' you better, then 10x is it.

I wear glasses, so this goes doubly so. The joys of a ~120m Fov 10x cannot be overstated in my view.

I would suggest having a look at the Nikon MHG 10x42. It's extra wide Fov, small size, light weight, and great ergonomics among others give much to recommend it. The step up to the ~1000 USD mark has much to offer.

You might also look at the new Tract Toric 10x42 HT for about 2/3 the price of the Nikon - expected to be great value for money.

Another tiny 10x that impresses me (for what it is, and in absolute terms too) is the Swarovski 10x32 SV. Around twice the cost of the Nikon MHG - it would be amongst the best diminutive 10x for glasses wearers.

Then of course there is the grandaddy Swarovski 10x50 SV. True WOW., though much bigger, heavier, and more expensive than the others.

If you view without glasses, you might look to a Nikon 10x35 EII if you can find a good one. Expect the same sort of reduced image scale close in, with the true perceived 10x image scale kicking in at greater distances. Of course it will also have better 3-D effect, though the 10x50 SV is surprisingly good in this regard too. All the bins I suggested are good in this respect too.

Of course there are those who would suggest that the best 10x compliment to a 7x is a 12x ! :) :cat:



Chosun :gh:
 
I've looked through the Track Toric 10x42 and it's a superior bang for the buck roof bino. The only one I think better of and own is the 10x35 Nikon EII. Optically it's superior IMO, costs less and has a wider fov. NOT waterproof and not for eyeglass wearers. Amazon has the EII for about $519 but it can be hard to find that seller, you have to word your search just right, so if you look and can't find them PM me. Both of those would be wonderful binoculars.
Oh and the smaller apparent view in the porros is not so pronounced in the 10x compared to the 8x in my experience. Love those porros.
 
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Really not thinking of investing in a mid to top tier binocular, just a cheaper one to try.
I can always hire/borrow a 10x at one of the RSPB centres at a reserve nearby, that way I can compare for a day without much outlay. My normal "hide kit" is my 7x binocular with a 60mm scope with fixed EP giving around x20 and this may continue to serve me.
It's a pity that I can't grab a Bushnell Legend M in the deals that are available across the water.
 
The Hawke 10x43 Frontier seems to be well thought of, available at an attractive price a little over £200 here.
If that has comparable optics to my ZR7x36ED2, then it's very much a runner for me... some are advertised as Mk2, I can't see any difference in the images that the sellers use.. Maybe they are all Mk2?
 
Legend M

Really not thinking of investing in a mid to top tier binocular, just a cheaper one to try.
I can always hire/borrow a 10x at one of the RSPB centres at a reserve nearby, that way I can compare for a day without much outlay. My normal "hide kit" is my 7x binocular with a 60mm scope with fixed EP giving around x20 and this may continue to serve me.
It's a pity that I can't grab a Bushnell Legend M in the deals that are available across the water.

Why can't you order them (legend M 8X42) from Roberts sporting goods on the B.y, or does the duty and vat make it not worthwhile.

Andy W.
 
Why can't you order them (legend M 8X42) from Roberts sporting goods on the B.y, or does the duty and vat make it not worthwhile.

Andy W.

By the time it arrives it will have added a good amount to cover carriage and customs.. still affordable at around £250, but a headache if it has a problem and must be returned.
Probably better to buy more locally for this reason, even better to buy from a bricks-n-mortar store whilst they are still in business.
 
Cluster,

Good point, I looked through an Optricon the other day while out when another person wanted to look at my Meoptas. Both were 7X, I was surprised at the view of the Optricon, very nice indeed and if I am correct they are distributed there. I would check them out, I believe they make 8 and 10X also.

Regards,

Andy W.
 
Thanks Andy, you are right, lots of Opticron bins to choose from and a good brand to buy. I like their porros (and have a couple 0f 8x already).
I am lucky to not be in a hurry. I may try my local bin stockist in the next week or so when I can plan a trip to Manchester.

Dave.
 
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