New Zeiss Victory SF !!!!!! (22 Viewers)

[bh46118]

Maybe I need one of each. :-O

Sell ur sv, then we will get a first hand review.

Just kidding!

Bryce...

 

[bh46118]

I stew a lot about binoculars and audio equipment, and I have gas, yep, I'm a sad obsessive gasbag. :king:

Only if you think the rest of the bino-using world are sad obsessives like us, scrutinising Bird Forum every hour for the latest news and gossip.

Fortunately for mankind we are a tiny minority and 9.5 SF users out of 10 are waiting for the weekend so they can go out and enjoy them.

You haven't got 'gas' again BH, have you? :-O

Lee

 

[jan van daalen]

I stew a lot about binoculars and audio equipment, and I have gas, yep, I'm a sad obsessive gasbag. :king:

If gasbag is another word for airbag, you've gotto drive safely otherwise....

 

[Troubador]

I stew a lot about binoculars and audio equipment, and I have gas, yep, I'm a sad obsessive gasbag. :king:

Well bh, that completes your interview and I am pleased to say you have all the qualifications to continue posting on Bird Forum.

Congratulations and long may your gas continue to fizz :smoke:

Lee

 

[bh46118]

I just had beans and cornbread for supper tonight. :storm::king:

Well bh, that completes your interview and I am pleased to say you have all the qualifications to continue posting on Bird Forum.

Congratulations and long may your gas continue to fizz :smoke:

Lee

 

[Troubador]

That Grey Colour

Ever wondered where Zeiss got the inspiration from for the grey tone that SF's are dressed in?

At the SF launch, Gary MH pointed out that this colour has been used by Zeiss before.

For those who have never seen one, take a look at the Dialyt 6x42 picture.

I don't know for certain that this is the origin of SF's colour but what do you think?

Lee

 

[Gijs van Ginkel]

Lee, post 1666,
Yes the grey color of the Dialyt 6x42 is similar to the one of the new SF (we have one, so I can compare). This Dialyt by the way was quite sensational at the time of its introducton since it was the first Zeiss binocular supplied with phase correction coating (the pase problem was already described in 1940 by Zeiss coworker Joos) and a very high light transmission of 92% at 550 nm, which was quite an achievement in 1988.
Gijs

 

[Hermann]

For those who have never seen one, take a look at the Dialyt 6x42 picture.
I don't know for certain that this is the origin of SF's colour but what do you think?

I think the 6x42 had a slightly brighter colour. Still regret I didn't get one at the time ...

Hermann

 

[Troubador]

Lee, post 1666,
Yes the grey color of the Dialyt 6x42 is similar to the one of the new SF (we have one, so I can compare). This Dialyt by the way was quite sensational at the time of its introducton since it was the first Zeiss binocular supplied with phase correction coating (the pase problem was already described in 1940 by Zeiss coworker Joos) and a very high light transmission of 92% at 550 nm, which was quite an achievement in 1988.
Gijs

Thanks for this Gijs, I didn't know this model was the first with P*. I would think there haven't been many 6x bins with AK prisms.

Lee

 

[henry link]

As you can see from the 1992 Zeiss catalogue page below there were two models offered in a color Zeiss called "oceanic". The 7x50 is an oddity. In the picture it looks identical to the normal 7x50 B/GA T* except for a different hinge cap, but it weighs 60g more. Denser armor or beefed up sealing perhaps?

Edit: The Peter Abrahams site calls these models "Nautiks" and gives an introduction date of Oct. 1988, which was about the same time as the introduction of Zeiss P coating on the entire Dialyt line. A second 7x50 BC "Nautik" (with compass?) is listed as being introduced in Sept. 1992. The 6x42 looks very much like it was cobbled together by combining a 7x42 body with 8x56 eyepieces.

 

[ceasar]

The Terra ED has 3 colors. One of them is gray.

http://www.zeiss.com/sports-optics/en_de/lifestyle/terra.html

 

[Troubador]

As you can see from the 1992 Zeiss catalogue page below there were two models offered in a color Zeiss called "oceanic". The 7x50 is an oddity. In the picture it looks identical to the normal 7x50 B/GA T* except for a different hinge cap, but it weighs 60g more. Denser armor or beefed up sealing perhaps?

Edit: The Peter Abrahams site calls these models "Nautiks" and gives an introduction date of Oct. 1988, which was about the same time as the introduction of Zeiss P coating on the entire Dialyt line. A second 7x50 BC "Nautik" (with compass?) is listed as being introduced in Sept. 1992. The 6x42 looks very much like it was cobbled together by combining a 7x42 body with 8x56 eyepieces.

Henry

Thats a really nice period ad. In some markets these bins were known as 'Skippers'.

Here is a pic of 7x and 6x side-by-side

Lee

 

[Hermann]

In the picture it looks identical to the normal 7x50 B/GA T* except for a different hinge cap, but it weighs 60g more. Denser armor or beefed up sealing perhaps?

Better sealing. The grey 7x50s were "officially" waterproof, whereas the 7x50 was only "unofficially" waterproof.

Hermann

 

[henry link]

Hi Hermann,

That sounds right. The catalogue page describes the B/GA T* as only water resistant.

Thanks for the photo, Lee. The bodies sure look the same to me. I'd be surprised if the objective lenses and prisms are any different. I notice that the AFOV of the 6x42 is about the same as the 8x56 Dialyt and the eyepiece from the 8x56 would be about the right focal length to reduce the magnification from 7x to 6x.

Henry

 

[ronh]

A great blast from the past Henry.

I always admired those fat boys, which are 10 oz lighter than the comparable Fujinon. Was the compass so subtly built in that it made no protrusion on the outside? The compass on Fujinon is ugly and vulnerable looking.

And by the way I think it was revealed here not too long ago that at long last Zeiss will no longer build you a 7x50 on special order. Is that correct? If so, another nail in the Porro coffin.

Ron

 

[jan van daalen]

A great blast from the past Henry.

I always admired those fat boys, which are 10 oz lighter than the comparable Fujinon. Was the compass so subtly built in that it made no protrusion on the outside? The compass on Fujinon is ugly and vulnerable looking.

And by the way I think it was revealed here not too long ago that at long last Zeiss will no longer build you a 7x50 on special order. Is that correct? If so, another nail in the Porro coffin.

Ron

Ron,

You can unplug the nail. The Classic 7x50 is still in production and on delivery!
As I've understood from Zeiss there are no plans in any other direction.

Jan

 

[ronh]

Thanks for the good news Jan. Ignazio would be pleased.
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/timeline/people/porro.html

Ron

 

[jan van daalen]

Thanks for the good news Jan. Ignazio would be pleased.
http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/optics/timeline/people/porro.html

Ron

Great site and very interesting read.

Thanks.

Jan

 

[henry link]

A great blast from the past Henry.

I always admired those fat boys, which are 10 oz lighter than the comparable Fujinon. Was the compass so subtly built in that it made no protrusion on the outside? The compass on Fujinon is ugly and vulnerable looking.

Ron

Hi Ron,

I've never seen the compass equipped Zeiss 7x50, but apparently it did exist, at least for a little while. The US price list below is dated January 1, 1993. Maybe Gary or Jan can tell us more about it.

Seems odd that the list pice of the 6x42 Dialyt was about the same as the 8x56 and substantially higher than the 7x42.

Henry

 

[jan van daalen]

Hi Ron,

I've never seen the compass equipped Zeiss 7x50, but apparently it did exist, at least for a little while. The US price list below is dated January 1, 1993. Maybe Gary or Jan can tell us more about it.

Seems odd that the list pice of the 6x42 Dialyt was about the same as the 8x56 and substantially higher than the 7x42.

Henry

You'll have to put your hope on Gary since I never even seen one and we started in 1993.

Jan