I got my NIB 8x32 Ultravid HD+ for under $1500, in which case, patience is your friend.So an $1800 binocular would not meet the criteria. For a new one, that is.
I got my NIB 8x32 Ultravid HD+ for under $1500, in which case, patience is your friend.So an $1800 binocular would not meet the criteria. For a new one, that is.
So an $1800 binocular would not meet the criteria. For a new one, that is.
Ask proponents of the three main contenders and you'll likely get a lot of variation in replies, changing with personal preferences/needs, and then the view that each of us likes differs as well.If a person was to name the best and most alpha binocular made to today, what would it be and how much does it cost?
For some.So....then it's a prestige thing?
I wouldn't say mistaken and I would almost say that the whole subject is arbitrary by nature. I also agree that from my ownership of a Leica BN in direct comparison with their Ultravid cousins, they seem satisfactorily alpha to me as well. In which case it would seem that careful shopping could even reward one with a sub-$500 alpha.I think that $1000 mark is a little arbitrary. I do believe that the previous generation (FL, HT, BN’s etc. etc.) to the new kids on the block are still considered in the premium (alpha) category, and can be had for around $1000. Maybe that is what Trinovid was referring to, I’m sure if I’m mistaken he’ll correct me.
So....then it's a prestige thing?
No, it's pretty much the same across the board. Unless you use a guitar/torch/wrench and yes, binocular enough, you're totally unlikely to understand why others would spend so much more for benefits you yourself cannot detect.If I won't see a major difference, then the law of diminishing returns is on steroids.
No, It’s knowing and understanding the differences of the optics and what your paying for. It’s a quality thing. Most people when handed a high quality optic usually are amazed and respond with a, wow.So....then it's a prestige thing?
So there is an actual need to own $3K binoculars. Ok.No. A pinnacle of excellence is just that - an unarguable point. If you purchase the pinnacle of any given field of goods, be it cars, boats, aircraft, optics, cameras, you are choosing the de facto best with only the rarest strata of competition. Most of the time it is driven by need, no prestige.
I’m not really following your last sentence. But I agree with your overall statement, you may not see the difference. You may not see the difference or much of a difference if your new to the hobby from a $400 to a $1000 binocular. My wife doesn’t see much difference from a $1000 to a $2000 optic, but my son , who’s a novice picks it out in a second and compares the difference’s to looking at something in HD and then switching to 4k video."I would ad if your interested in buying what is considered the best, and your new to the hobby, that doesn’t mean you’ll see a major difference or if you will see any difference than from a new high mid grade optic in the $1000 range."
If I won't see a major difference, then the law of diminishing returns is on steroids.
T,I got my NIB 8x32 Ultravid HD+ for under $1500, in which case, patience is your friend.
I have a $900 blueridge acustic (China), as well as a Marten D45 about $7000+ , a Taylor 816 about $4000 and the Blueridge easily can compare in sound quality. Although they sound very close there is still a very distinguishable difference in finish, fit and feel. So, yes there is the law of diminishing returns. But when it comes to optics, even though lesser quality than top tier are nice, they lack that sparkle , the oohs and aahs and the wow when you look at something, it kind of takes your breath away.I have experienced the law of diminishing returns with guitars, for example. I own a bunch of Telecasters. I have an $800 Telecaster that sounds 99.7% as good as my $5000 custom shop Telecaster. It takes experience to hear and feel any difference. But then again, the player has a lot to do with the final output, unlike binoculars. That being said, I would never spend anywhere near $5K on a guitar again. But I do "get it". There is a certain amount of pride in owning "the best".
Not really, it's on an 'only if you want to' basis. It feels like you're less interested in the answers though than the desire to poke away at the attempts to be helpful to what was assumed to be a sincere inquiry.So there is an actual need to own $3K binoculars. Ok.
I think you did too. Mine just came along at the tail end of a long and patient search, and I may have lost more than $200 in terms of hours-of-enjoyment by holding out.Where the heck did you get that NIB for under $1500? I paid $1700 and change and thought I got good deal.
It's the exact same equation that I posted earlier. If you understand it with guitars, you understand it with all other purchases.I have experienced the law of diminishing returns with guitars, for example.