Arctic Redpoll I.D Request (1 Viewer)

[JHDraytonbassettpits]

On the North West, Cheshire thread

http://www.birdforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=174

 

[wolfbirder]

Definite Hornemann's.

 

[rockfowl]

and a beauty!

 

[gerdwichers8]

I don't think this is a hornemanni though, if the surrounding redpolls are caberets than size compares well with this bird still being an exillipes.

 

[gerdwichers8]

I can't see the head very well but note that the tail is not very long. In many hornemanni the taillength compared to the body, causes a different and more attenuated shape to the rear.

 

[JHDraytonbassettpits]

Comparison on Birdguides http://www.birdguides.com/iris/pictures.asp?mode=search&tx=7661&rty=0&r=0&gallery=0&v=0&off=339708

 

[gerdwichers8]

This nice article is flemmish but the pictures are very informative
http://vwg.natuurkoepel.be/archief/Determinatietabel voor Barmsijzen.pdf

 

[JHDraytonbassettpits]

Martin Garner twitter
Martin Garner ‏@birdingfrontier 3h

Oh dear- just checked link to blog- looks like a Hornemann's Arctic Redpoll near Chester, Cheshire. BOOM! http://www.birdforum.net/showthread.php?p=2911071 …

 

[wolfbirder]

Interesting, I thought it was Hornemann's, size wise alone looks very impressive.

Most Coues's I have seen are smaller birds.

 

[PhilW]

According to the Dec 2013 article on Redpoll I.D in British birds Hornemann's is the biggest of the lot. Coue's overlaps with Mealy/ Common.

I'm only 5-6 miles from Chester and I had this in my garden on 12th January. It only stayed a couple of minutes but size & structure suggested Coue's. Coincidence or what? A possible Coue's was also trapped and ringed about 20 miles away late last year.....

 

[sylvia staffs]

Surely worth submitting as a Coues Phil??

 

[JHDraytonbassettpits]

This nice article is flemmish but the pictures are very informative
http://vwg.natuurkoepel.be/archief/Determinatietabel voor Barmsijzen.pdf

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[PhilW]

Surely worth submitting as a Coues Phil??

After discussing with various people I've submitted it as a possible Coue's but at the very least hoping it'll get recorded as Redpoll sp showing characteristics of Coue's Arctic Redpoll.