Herring Gull and LBBG? NW Italy (1 Viewer)

[balex78]

Hello,

1) could this be a herring gull?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/15880097814/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/15880097424/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/16315201950/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/15880096514/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/15880096314/in/photostream/

2) Is this a LBBG or a YLG?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/48743015@N03/16316739307/in/photostream/


Thanks
Alex

 

[balex78]

any opinion on these ones? Lou?

 

[lou salomon]

in the 1st bird i'd have liked to see the tail and an open wing...tertials are not good for herring gull but better for YLG. it could be a retarded 3cy micha with head striation, retarded bill and less than usual grey feathers but i can't rule out HG (with mich-like tertials).

2nd is a michahellis.

 

[balex78]

thanks Lou!