How Many Genera Have You Seen? (1 Viewer)

[Mark Harper]

Interesting thread and fortunately Wildlife Recorder has a feature that creates report for you on genera, which enables me to see I have seen 1,783 (IOC).

Phylloscopus with 57 out of 80 is the most I have seen.
Tringa with 13 is the largest complete genus, although there are 5 others with only one missing that are larger (Calidris, Larus, Vanellus, Circus and Acanthiza)
The largest genera that I haven't see any of are Geospiza (Galapagos Finches) and Sheppardia (Akalats) both with 9 species.

 

[sandee]

"wiped" =?

Birding slang (possibly British) for "seen all the species in".

 

[sandee]

Interesting thread and fortunately Wildlife Recorder has a feature that creates report for you on genera, which enables me to see I have seen 1,783 (IOC).

Phylloscopus with 57 out of 80 is the most I have seen.
Tringa with 13 is the largest complete genus, although there are 5 others with only one missing that are larger (Calidris, Larus, Vanellus, Circus and Acanthiza)
The largest genera that I haven't see any of are Geospiza (Galapagos Finches) and Sheppardia (Akalats) both with 9 species.

Bet the one Calidris you miss is pygmaea, which was my last one, in 2003, making it my biggest completed (wiped) genus. Since then, C. pygmaea has become a lot more difficult.
But you beat me with the Phylloscopus - I have only 43.

Daan Sandee

 

[Mark Harper]

Not calidris pygmaea, which I have seen a couple of times, but Rock Sandpiper.

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

Interesting. I've got all the calidris and tringa and also need one larus (Olrog's), but I'm nowhere close on the other genera you mention.

My goal was to see all the gulls (I need 4 more), and if it wasn't for covid, I'd be wrapping that up this year. Now it looks like it won't be until 2023.

 

[sicklebill]

Good timing with this query as I just swapped my IOC Excel life list from 6.2 to the current 11.1, mainly beacuse there were so many genera changes.
I ended up with 1459, up from 1425 in 6.2. Passerines were 811 and non-passerines 648. Heaven knows when i will be able to add to it from field observations, our vaccine roll-out is a shambles, 80% behind schedule....

 

[sicklebill]

Just checked my Phylloscs and have 48; Wiped genera include Calidris, Vanellus, Tringa, Acanthiza and Circus, also Coracias, but Larus needs a couple of W N. American species plus a trip to Djibouti for White-eyed Gull.

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

Just checked my Phylloscs and have 48; Wiped genera include Calidris, Vanellus, Tringa, Acanthiza and Circus, also Coracias, but Larus needs a couple of W N. American species plus a trip to Djibouti for White-eyed Gull.

White-eyed is one of my missing four. I've postponed a trip to Israel twice - now scheduled for a year from now.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Just checked my Phylloscs and have 48; Wiped genera include Calidris, Vanellus, Tringa, Acanthiza and Circus, also Coracias, but Larus needs a couple of W N. American species plus a trip to Djibouti for White-eyed Gull.

Sorry mate, you can't 'wipe' vanellus, not whilst this appears in any firld guide and it's not actually declared extinct yet

Javan lapwing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

White-eyed Gull is easy at Eilat in Israel.

 

[Andy Adcock]

White-eyed is one of my missing four. I've postponed a trip to Israel twice - now scheduled for a year from now.

What are the other four, Swallow-tailed and Lava?

 

[Jacana]

I've completed very few (non-monotypic) genera, and those that I have completed are very species poor. Gavia (5) is my most speciose I think.

Other polytypic genera completed:

Pluvialis (4)
Chloroceryle (4)
Parus (4)
Phalaropus (3)
Xenops (3)
Ramphotrigon (3)
Tityra (3)
Abroscopus (3)
Acanthis (3)
Aix (2)
Piaya (2)
Spilopelia (2)
Pyrrhocorax (2)
Stelgidopteryx (2)
Sturnus (2)
Dives (2)

I'm still missing 8 Calidris, 4 Tringa, 10 Larus.

I've had a surprisingly good stabs at Thalasseus (just missing Chinese Crested), Prinia (43%) and Certhia (7 of 9- missing Bar-tailed and Sichuan).

 

[Mark Harper]

Whilst White-eyed Gull might be Laridae isn't it Ichthyaetus rather than Larus? Certainly shows as such in my IOC list, assuming it is up to date, likewise Swallow-tailed Gull and Lava Gull that Andy mentioned are Creagrus and Leucophaeus respectively.

 

[Andy Adcock]

I've completed very few (non-monotypic) genera, and those that I have completed are very species poor. Gavia (5) is my most speciose I think.

Don't think I have a single, completed one

 

[DMW]

Birding slang (possibly British) for "seen all the species in".

That's pretty funny. Brits say "cleaned up".

 

[Andy Adcock]

That's pretty funny. Brits say "cleaned up".

I don't know is this is a bit of a myth, I was told that some birders, after they'd seen all the species on a particular, field guide plate, would rip out that plate?

 

[DMW]

I think Pterocles (14sp) is my best completed genus (also seen the two Syrrhaptes to complete the family). I'm on 55 Phylloscs, and also need Rock Sand to complete Calidris.

 

[DMW]

I don't know is this is a bit of a myth, I was told that some birders, after they'd seen all the species on a particular, field guide plate, would rip out that plate?

I can imagine some birders doing that as a show of bravado, and then quietly sellotaping it back in when nobody is looking!

 

[Jacana]

I can imagine some birders doing that as a show of bravado, and then quietly sellotaping it back in when nobody is looking!

I have a very old and battered Collins back home in the UK, which I started pritt-sticking up when I completed the plate.

 

[sicklebill]

Sorry mate, you can't 'wipe' vanellus, not whilst this appears in any firld guide and it's not actually declared extinct yet

Javan lapwing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

White-eyed Gull is easy at Eilat in Israel.

Interesting about White-eyed Gull at Eilat, I was not aware of that, though I do fancy a look at Djibouti anyway. With no records since the 1940's Javan Lapawing is claarly a goner, can't imagine why it has not been declared Extinct, so for practical purposes I have cleaned up Vanellus

 

[Andy Adcock]

Interesting about White-eyed Gull at Eilat, I was not aware of that, though I do fancy a look at Djibouti anyway. With no records since the 1940's Javan Lapawing is claarly a goner, can't imagine why it has not been declared Extinct, so for practical purposes I have cleaned up Vanellus

Because they say there are unsurveyed places where it could still be hanging on, in theory but I agree, it's gone.