Children use this site so stick your comments elsewhere :bounce:Xenospiza said:Sick bastard.
ALAN DICKINSON said:Children use this site so stick your comments elsewhere :bounce:
Rubyred said:Not all of them, you need to keep a live one in the trap.
ALAN DICKINSON said:The whole thing is getting to hilarious for me so I leave you to it
ALAN DICKINSON said:Children use this site so stick your comments elsewhere :bounce:
Xenospiza said:Sick bastard.
Poecile said:So you don't fancy answering any of the points put to you then? Is that because the body of evidence in the scientific literature doesn't fit your layman's logic of hearsay and skewed anecdote? Or maybe you're just ignorant of the body of evidence...
What points have been put to me? I have done nothing I must admit I am not too interested in what was happening 5000 years ago is this what you are on about or whatPoecile said:So you don't fancy answering any of the points put to you then? Is that because the body of evidence in the scientific literature doesn't fit your layman's logic of hearsay and skewed anecdote? Or maybe you're just ignorant of the body of evidence...
Rubyred said:Pay Attention! Which bit do you not understand?
Garden without trap --- Plenty of magpies and No songbirds fledging.
Garden with trap --- No magpies and Plenty of young songbirds.
As I said the trap is set on a permanent basis (356 days of the year)
You keep the magpies, I will keep the songbirds.
It is a legal method of control.
Finished; Life’s too short to spend time justifying trapping to you or to anyone else.
Rubyred said:Pay Attention! Which bit do you not understand?
Garden without trap --- Plenty of magpies and No songbirds fledging.
Garden with trap --- No magpies and Plenty of young songbirds.
As I said the trap is set on a permanent basis (356 days of the year)
You keep the magpies, I will keep the songbirds.
It is a legal method of control.
Finished; Life’s too short to spend time justifying trapping to you or to anyone else.
ALAN DICKINSON said:What points have been put to me? I have done nothing I must admit I am not too interested in what was happening 5000 years ago is this what you are on about or what
ALAN DICKINSON said:You are talking nonsense when you keep banging on about a natural state that no longer exists and will never exist again, by the way how did your website go the one you wanted photos for maybe you would like to furnish us all with the details it may be educational, all I was saying is that I miss birds that were once very common such as Song Thrush, these were in all gardens round here I remember they liked nesting in Holly
Where in my posts have i said ANYTHING about killing Magpies. calm down.Poecile said:That's the point! You keep banging on about the need to kill magpies because they are reducing the numbers of songbirds, which you alluded to be something of an unnatural state due to the increase in magpies, whereas it is the songbirds that are at 'unnaturally' high numbers. You're right, the natural state doesn't exist, so why on Earth are you supporting the wholly out of context killing of wild birds in one small garden that will do nothing for any species and not dent magpuie numbers one bit? All trapping in one small area does is create the need to keep trapping, and the need to keep killing. And why kill when it's pointless? If it worked, there'd be no need for contstant trapping. It would only make a blind bit of difference if everyone in your parish trapped magpies too.
As for the website, I make an arbitrary distinction between work and play. This is play.
Actually even wiping out every magpie in the area would not make a jot of difference to the breeding population. The only effect would be on post breeding juvenile numbers, which is why gamekeepers are so keen to do it - leaves more surplus for the idjits with guns to have a pop at!Poecile said:If it worked, there'd be no need for contstant trapping. It would only make a blind bit of difference if everyone in your parish trapped magpies too.
Sandy Beech said:... or that they should exist without eating birds as they are omnivorous - who is going to start the re-education programme? .