Small raptor from South Africa, late march (1 Viewer)

[tconzemi]

I would be interested in feedback on the app if anyone has used.

The 5th edition appears to be available for £14.31 from amazon.
Kindle version is £9.99

The app is £17.49 - however the app is optimised for on screen use and includes '1000 calls'. Which I guess makes it similar to the Collins Bird Guides app (of which I am a fan) . In addition it says that it will update the app in the future for content - in principle future proofing.

I have the 5th edition app, beside high quality songs and calls every species is depicted with the book's pictures plus several photos showing all age classes. Great app!

 

[Butty]

the 5th edition app

Tom, if you should happen to have a phone with an SD card... do you know if the app allows storage of (part of?) its data on the card? And how much storage space it uses on the phone and how much on the card?

 

[tconzemi]

Tom, if you should happen to have a phone with an SD card... do you know if the app allows storage of (part of?) its data on the card? And how much storage space it uses on the phone and how much on the card?

I have it on my Iphone (so no SD card) it takes 1.16 Go with 287 ko of documents and data

 

[Thibaud]

Looks like a great app, I'll have to get it next time I'm headed for that part of the world!

Meanwhile, I dug up this one photo which is equally terrible as the original, but does show more of the belly.
Is that helpful at all in telling apart the Sparrowhawk from the Goshawk?

 

[Andy Hurley]

Looks like a great app, I'll have to get it next time I'm headed for that part of the world!

Meanwhile, I dug up this one photo which is equally terrible as the original, but does show more of the belly.
Is that helpful at all in telling apart the Sparrowhawk from the Goshawk?

I think this photo points to Little Sparrowhawk, mainly because of the feathered upper legs

 

[Butty]

mainly because of the feathered upper legs

I don't know this feature. Could you give more detail?

 

[Andy Hurley]

I don't know this feature. Could you give more detail?

The thighs are well feathered like "trousers" in LSH

 

[Butty]

Thanks. Is that a real difference? It is indeed a difference shown in my (old) SASOL, but I've taken that to be due simply either to posture or to an artist's quirk. I don't see that difference between the species in other artists' work. I've not found any mention of it in field guide texts.
I would have thought that, in the second of the OP's photos, all one is seeing around the legs is flattened belly feathers.

 

[tconzemi]

I don't think thigh feathering is a valid point, unfortunataly we do not see a lot in the second picture, except the better visible and typical barring on the sides and not so big toes pointing towards Little

 

[Thibaud]

Thanks for your efforts on really subpar photos, gents!

 

[Andy Hurley]

Thanks. Is that a real difference? It is indeed a difference shown in my (old) SASOL, but I've taken that to be due simply either to posture or to an artist's quirk. I don't see that difference between the species in other artists' work. I've not found any mention of it in field guide texts.
I would have thought that, in the second of the OP's photos, all one is seeing around the legs is flattened belly feathers.

I don't think thigh feathering is a valid point, unfortunataly we do not see a lot in the second picture, except the better visible and typical barring on the sides and not so big toes pointing towards Little

I'm still using the SASOL 4th Ed, so I'll go with your more up to date knowledge. Thanks!