Waders at Shanghai, China (1 Viewer)

[wuwu1277]

Hi,: this is my first bird watching at Shanghai, PR China. The photo was taken on yesterday, 24 Nov 2023
Can you pls kindly advise and confirm bird ID as numbered in the photo: 1) what ID? 2) Spotted redshank? 3) black tailed godwit? 4) green-winged teal? and any other bird ID in the photo?
Thank you so much in advance

 

[Indobirder]

The rufous duck at the second 4 is a Northern Shoveler.
Most (all?) of the other ducks do look like Green-winged Teal
The left 3 looks like Common Greenshank
Not sure about the right 3.
2 does look right for Spotted Redshank

 

[HouseCrow]

Those will be Eurasian Common Teal most likely: Anas crecca crecca, the ones without the vertical white bar on the chest (in adult males).
Cheers
gerben

 

[CARERY]

The right 3 has a Common Greenshank in the background. The bird in the foreground should be a Black-tailed Godwit - very long legs.

1 are Dunlins imo

 

[wuwu1277]

Dear All: thank all of you for your ID comments, I learnt a lot from you! Thank you!

 

[Butty]

1 - Broad-billed sandpiper(s)?

 

[THE_FERN]

1 - Broad-billed sandpiper(s)?

Wouldn't we expect a) more of a head pattern, b) a bit of a droopy bill tip

 

[Butty]

I think both features pass muster in a photo of this quality - and neither feature is always especially obvious anyway. The bill-shape doesn't strike me as dunlin.

 

[kuzeycem]

1s are Dunlin

 

[wuwu1277]

Noted all your ID comments with many thanks. Yes, I should try again to obtain photos with better quality. But that area is just inaccessible, and allow me to take photos from far only... Again, thank all of you.

 

[vergan]

Wouldn't we expect a) more of a head pattern, b) a bit of a droopy bill tip

Yes, that's because they are dunlins
Cheers

 

[THE_FERN]

Yes, that's because they are dunlins
Cheers

That's my view as well

 

[01101001]

Any chance for a Marsh Sandpiper for the left 3? Doubtful, but?

 

[THE_FERN]

Any chance for a Marsh Sandpiper for the left 3? Doubtful, but?

Looks big for that species (compare with speed redshank to right), also bill seems bent

 

[Butty]

Any chance for a Marsh Sandpiper for the left 3?

I can't see a reason to think that - and it seems too big/bulky. Compare spotted redshank to right and probable broad-billed sandpiper below it.

 

[johnallcock]

1 - Broad-billed sandpiper(s)?

I can see why you suggest this, but personally I think these birds are Dunlin.

Broad-billed Sand is a small bird (similar in size to a stint), whereas these look larger compared to surrounding birds. The upperparts of Broad-billed are fairly well marked, with feathers having pale fringes and darker shafts - these birds seem much plainer, more in line with Dunlin. I think head pattern is accentuated by the strong light, making the supercilium more apparent than usual for Dunlin, however the darker eyestripe is not as apparent as I'd expect for Broad-billed. And, for me, the bill length looks typical for East Asian Dunlin (remember that this varies geographically).

Finally some circumstatial reasoning: Broad-billed Sand mostly winter further south, and I think most would be beyond Shanghai by now. Dunlin is common in the area in winter.

 

[mcaribou]

I can see why you suggest this, but personally I think these birds are Dunlin.

Broad-billed Sand is a small bird (similar in size to a stint), whereas these look larger compared to surrounding birds. The upperparts of Broad-billed are fairly well marked, with feathers having pale fringes and darker shafts - these birds seem much plainer, more in line with Dunlin. I think head pattern is accentuated by the strong light, making the supercilium more apparent than usual for Dunlin, however the darker eyestripe is not as apparent as I'd expect for Broad-billed. And, for me, the bill length looks typical for East Asian Dunlin (remember that this varies geographically).

Finally some circumstatial reasoning: Broad-billed Sand mostly winter further south, and I think most would be beyond Shanghai by now. Dunlin is common in the area in winter.

Yes,Broad-billed very rare now in Shanghai.Dunlin fairly common.At this time of year it's not much easier to see a Broad-billed than to see a Spoon-billed Sandpiper.