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New binoculars from leica (1 Viewer)

Exactly VB.
But there is still the mysterious split ring with space for a fingertip to execute some sort of switch, just underneath the focus wheel.

Lee

prediction:

The split ring is only part of a newly designed complex diopter/focus.
This also indicates alpha level bino.

Flat field just like the other two it will go head to head with, but it's selling
points are smaller and brighter. Total transmission will be higher than
the other two; higher grade HT glass and updated coatings and all that jazz.
No new special innovative feature ... just high transmission good Ol' fashioned glass.

wild guess here: retail set at 2800-2900 (usd) and dealers will sell for 2500-2600.
 
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The split ring is to switch to x-Ray vision. Some middle-aged designer at Leica
ordered those x-Ray glasses from an old comic book ad as a kid.
Being highly Dissapointed , he vowed to invent a high tech version
when he grew up.
 
The split ring is to switch to x-Ray vision. Some middle-aged designer at Leica
ordered those x-Ray glasses from an old comic book ad as a kid.
Being highly Dissapointed , he vowed to invent a high tech version
when he grew up.

This is by far the most realistic prediction yet :t:

Lee
 
prediction:

The split ring is only part of a newly designed complex diopter/focus.
This also indicates alpha level bino.

Flat field just like the other two it will go head to head with, but it's selling
points are smaller and brighter. Total transmission will be higher than
the other two; higher grade HT glass and updated coatings and all that jazz.
No new special innovative feature ... just high transmission good Ol' fashioned glass.

wild guess here: retail set at 2800-2900 (usd) and dealers will sell for 2500-2600.

Probably just an upgrade of the original Trinovid with HT-glass.
Between Trinovid HD and Ultravid in price. Made in Portugal.
Competing with Swaro SLC.
Don't think it will get more exciting than that.

Though one can hope for built in images stabilizer, teleconverter or x-ray-vision..thats the beauty of speculation, everything is possible..
;)

But I hope I am wrong...a real killer, super-hyper-leica-alfa-bin would be cool.
:-O
 
Probably just an upgrade of the original Trinovid with HT-glass.
Between Trinovid HD and Ultravid in price. Made in Portugal.
Competing with Swaro SLC.
Don't think it will get more exciting than that.

Though one can hope for built in images stabilizer, teleconverter or x-ray-vision..thats the beauty of speculation, everything is possible..
;)

But I hope I am wrong...a real killer, super-hyper-leica-alfa-bin would be cool.
:-O

You may be right...anything is possible, but that would seem weird after Trinovid HD just came out to squeeze a bin between Trinovid and UV. That doesn't seem like something Leica would do. it seems time for ultravid's successor and I think ultravid may actually be the bin in between Trinovid and the Noctivid.
Of course I could be dead wrong here.

P.S. I do agree it looks like it came out of their Portugal factory as others stated.
Could be it was made in Portugal and is lower level than UV or they will be making
all models going forward with name plate on sides of barrels and similar style focus
wheel.
 
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A curious thing happened after the introduction of the UVHD+. Predictably, the older UVHD's dropped in price into the $1500-$1900 range, as retailers sought to clear out stock, while the newer UVHD+'s assumed the $2000+ range. But then a few month later, the UVHD+'s dropped by several hundreds of dollars, closing the gap between themselves and the still-on-clearance UVHV's. Soon word came out that these price drops for the UVHD+ were permanent. Given this, I'm inclined to agree the G-G / Annabeth's logic. As much as I'd like to see an 8x32 Trinny, my guess is that this new bin represents a new top-of-the-line which will probably be in the mid $2000s to compete with the SF and the SV. Just my 2 cents.
 
Further details come to light .....

Looks like these new "NoctiVid's" will be wide angle 42mm bins. They will have 100% internally reflecting Perger prisms of ultra-low inclusion HT glass, the best synthetic fluorite FPL-53 thin lens design glass objectives, and HT and FPL-53 glass further sprinkled throughout the optical train which includes field flattening elements. :king:

The sharp to the edges view has a distortion profile that will thankfully more resemble the critically acclaimed Nikon EDG, rather than the polarizing 'Wetzlar Wobble', and the light transmission will be a genuine up to and more than 96%, with the Hi-Lux coatings retuned for a table top flat curve giving neutral colour rendition, and completely true whites. o:D

CA control will set a new Alpha benchmark, ER will be a handy 18mm, glare control typically Leica top notch and also setting a new mark to beat, the armour will be dual density rubber as standard which will be firmly attached to the body. Special edition perforated kangaroo leather models in a range of fashionable colours will follow at a later date. Noice. :t:

The body will be the big story - even with the usual for Leica Titanium shafts, all that high quality glass has required the move to a lightweight CFRP (Carbon Fibre Reinforced Plastic) chassis. Collectively, Birders, HunTers, and Renaissance Futurists everywhere rejoiced - yay!! o:) , that somebody has finally seen the light and offered binoculars both lighter and stronger than the anachronistic Mg alloy behemoths ..... :cat: :t:

A MRRP price of less than <$2500 will be the icing on the cake! :eat:

Looks like the SV, and the even lower rated SF are going to have to lift their acts ...... there's a new :king: in town! :t:

Chosun :gh:
 
You may be right...anything is possible, but that would seem weird after Trinovid HD just came out to squeeze a bin between Trinovid and UV. That doesn't seem like something Leica would do. it seems time for ultravid's successor and I think ultravid may actually be the bin in between Trinovid and the Noctivid.
Of course I could be dead wrong here.

P.S. I do agree it looks like it came out of their Portugal factory as others stated.
Could be it was made in Portugal and is lower level than UV or they will be making
all models going forward with name plate on sides of barrels and similar style focus
wheel.

Things seem to point in different directions here.
The lens barrels of the Noctivid have that ridge seen in the old Trinovids, the focuser looks a bit Trinovid like etc.

BUT an open bridge design points to a SF/EL competitor.

Also trying to interprete the marketing fluff "a century och knowledge has come to life", "crystal clear binocular vision", "..inspring perfection" it seems to imply a new top of the range model. Presenting a midrange bin from a century of knowledge and research would perhaps be a bit disapointing..:-O

Price levels are a bit complex here in europe but the UVID+ are in average the cheapest of the alphas. At my dealer they are about 200-300 Euros less than SF and EL. But you can get both SF and EL cheaper if bought from Germany. But it seems to be room for a new alpha above the UVHD+.

The perfect bin haven't been produced yet so maybe Leica can surprise us taking the best from SF, UVHD+ and EL and merging it into a new alpha.
:smoke:
 
Also trying to interprete the marketing fluff "a century och knowledge has come to life", "crystal clear binocular vision", "..inspring perfection" it seems to imply a new top of the range model. Presenting a midrange bin from a century of knowledge and research would perhaps be a bit disapointing..:-O

And the fluff itself is a little self-contradicting. The Little Owl's crystal clear vision between dawn and dusk is eulogised but the bit between dawn and dusk is daytime, whereas Noctivid suggests the night.

Lee
 
Things seem to point in different directions here.
The lens barrels of the Noctivid have that ridge seen in the old Trinovids, the focuser looks a bit Trinovid like etc.

BUT an open bridge design points to a SF/EL competitor.

Also trying to interprete the marketing fluff "a century och knowledge has come to life", "crystal clear binocular vision", "..inspring perfection" it seems to imply a new top of the range model. Presenting a midrange bin from a century of knowledge and research would perhaps be a bit disapointing..:-O

Price levels are a bit complex here in europe but the UVID+ are in average the cheapest of the alphas. At my dealer they are about 200-300 Euros less than SF and EL. But you can get both SF and EL cheaper if bought from Germany. But it seems to be room for a new alpha above the UVHD+.

The perfect bin haven't been produced yet so maybe Leica can surprise us taking the best from SF, UVHD+ and EL and merging it into a new alpha.
:smoke:

3 things point to a new alpha: the marketing blurb/fluff, the newly designed focus/diopter and open bridge. I think the open bridge is key. It would be strange for Leica to come out with an open bridge design that doesn't compete directly with SF and SV.

The only things throwing us all off is the Trinovid-like style and materials which point to the Portugal factory. Or, it's just possible Leica is sticking with a style consistency thoughout their range going forward.

It's either an expensive top bin or relatively less expensive SLC/HT level bin.
Maybe Leica decided they can make a bin as good or better than SV and SF for less :eek!:
But that seems not quite their style ... No they would crank the price up a little higher than the other two to make it clear "ours is better".
But a Leica bin priced at SLC/HT level with the flat field , high transmission , SF/SV comparable specs would get people very excited. Ultravid would be phased out in this case I would think.

I'm not quite sure what we have here, but the speculation is fun.
 
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Off topic...

this upcoming British Bird Fair could be a great year for
Optics on display:

New Leica top bino

New Kowa compact and hopefully announcement on plans for new Genesis.

New Opticron Traveller ED

Nikon HG should be there for its debut

Vanguard Endeavor IV debut (?)

Zeiss SF 32mm debut (?); someone rumored that here on BF a while back (can't remember who)

Meopta: with Cabellas contract expiring will Meopta have HD
available everywhere soon? Or announce plans for brand new Meostar?

I may have missed something.

I do hope that Typo David and Troubador Lee will
be so kind to update us sad folks again (like last year) who live far far away.
 
According to this report of an interview in a German magazine back in 2008 the name Noctivid was originally registered for a riflescope:

Weiterhin wurde als Konstruktionsleiter ein gewisser Udo Mayer eingestellt, der von einem namhaften deutschen Zielfernrohrhersteller kam. Auf die genaue Frage nach lichtstarker Zieloptik meinte Herr Kaufmann:" ...Sagen wir so, wir melden gerade eine Marke an, die heißt Noctivid." Mehr könnte er zwar sagen, wolle aber nicht.

Google translate renders this as: Furthermore, a certain Udo Mayer was hired as construction manager, who came from a well-known German riflescope manufacturer. On the precise question of light strong objective optic said Mr. Kaufmann: ". ... Let's just say, we just report a mark to which is Noctivid" More he could say, but did not want to.

Lee
 
Off topic...

this upcoming British Bird Fair could be a great year for
Optics on display:

New Leica top bino

New Kowa compact and hopefully announcement on plans for new Genesis.

New Opticron Traveller ED

Nikon HG should be there for its debut

Vanguard Endeavor IV debut (?)

Zeiss SF 32mm debut (?); someone rumored that here on BF a while back (can't remember who)

Meopta: with Cabellas contract expiring will Meopta have HD
available everywhere soon? Or announce plans for brand new Meostar?

I may have missed something.

I do hope that Typo David and Troubador Lee will
be so kind to update us sad folks again (like last year) who live far far away.

Zeiss Gavia 85 scope ...
 
That looks similar to the SF in construction, dual hinge.

Jerry

OK, call me Mr Picky, but its more like EL since SF has 3 bridges, 1 each above and below the focus wheel and then another down by the objectives.

Bird Fair opens a week from this Friday.

Lee
 
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