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question about canon IS 10x30's distortion (1 Viewer)

About the optics of the Canon 10x30 IS: they're good. The 10x30's give me the most satisfying views I've ever experienced in any bin I've owned, including alpha's ( Zeiss 7x42 FL, Leica 10x32 BN, Swarovski 8x30 SLC ). That's what makes it hard to upgrade to the 10x42 L IS; considerably more weight, and quite expensive.

The big Zeiss ClassiC 8x56 shouldn't be on my list, for multiple reasons, price tag for instance. But I looked through them on the Dutch Bird festival ( never a moment interested in the complete FL line-up that Zeiss had ) and boy, did I fall in love again.

Anyway, today I was on my local patch, 10x30 IS's around my neck and 18x50 IS's mounted on my tripod, a clear sunny day and lots of birds. I couldn't help thinking: why on earth would I ever want new bins with these two doing so well?
It's the image stabilization that makes all the difference. The 18x50's were extremely sharp and bright, tripod mounted, no IS on. Much better for long distance viewing than any scope I've owned, that's for sure. Handheld with IS on, on occasion tracking birds flying high, it's even more amazing how functional these bins are.

The two bins have the same kind of image sweetness, and complement each other very well. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if I found myself in an optics shop to try out the 10x42 L IS one of these days. Maybe I should see a psychiatrist.

Best regards,

Ronald

Glad your happy with your Canon's. For me I notice better contrast with the top alpha's. The Canon's are just dead in comparison. They are sharp but they just don't give me the feeling I have just moved closer to the bird. They are lacking something. Be happy that a $300.00 Canon keeps you satisfied and you don't have to spend the $2000.00 to get an alpha. Not all people discern the differences between low priced binoculars and the alphas and perhaps you are lucky you don't.
 
Glad your happy with your Canon's. For me I notice better contrast with the top alpha's. The Canon's are just dead in comparison. They are sharp but they just don't give me the feeling I have just moved closer to the bird. They are lacking something. Be happy that a $300.00 Canon keeps you satisfied and you don't have to spend the $2000.00 to get an alpha. Not all people discern the differences between low priced binoculars and the alphas and perhaps you are lucky you don't.

Point taken, Dennis. Perhaps I AM lucky, as long as the sun is well above the horizon. Tonight I tried to find Long-Eared Owls feeding their young using the 10x30 IS's and I couldn't. After dark they're no good. I was on my way back home from a meeting, on my bicycle, when I heard the young owls' calls.

It's about time I get myself a good pair of owling bins, only where does the money come from. Perhaps I can settle for less and find gamma or epsilon bins that I like...

Best regards,

Ronald
 
Point taken, Dennis. Perhaps I AM lucky, as long as the sun is well above the horizon. Tonight I tried to find Long-Eared Owls feeding their young using the 10x30 IS's and I couldn't. After dark they're no good. I was on my way back home from a meeting, on my bicycle, when I heard the young owls' calls.

It's about time I get myself a good pair of owling bins, only where does the money come from. Perhaps I can settle for less and find gamma or epsilon bins that I like...

Best regards,

Ronald

Those big Zeiss Classics would be great for that in an 8x56mm. Owling is alot of fun but you need some serious aperture because it is usually done at dusk. Some Nikon Monarch's in a big aperture would work for owling and they are not too expensive. Owl's are awesome when they are hunting like that!
 
Hi Ronald,

You could always go for the Canon IS 10x42L's !!

Doug...........

So they keep telling me. o:D

I'm on the brink of a nervous breakdown.
Hehe, that means it's almost time for something irresponsible! 8-P
Keep the pressure on, guys. By the end of september I'll be tutoring 60 rank beginners in the skills of Bird Identification and I must have posh binoculars to show off my authority, of course! ;)

If I'm not in a mental home already...

Best regards,

Ronald
 
Not enough aperture for Owling.

Yeah, that's what i'm thinking too!
The problem though is, that Kimmo Absetz recommends them for night use, and who am I to disagree with him?
It comes down to the quickness of viewing; if I want to be spot on to a flying owl, I can't wait for the IS to settle because it takes a few seconds. If I'm spotting a sitting owl, I have some time to let the IS do its work and get better detail recognition.

The aperture of the Zeiss 8x56 ClassiC, resulting in a 7 mm exit pupil, will be excellent but I won't need it as my eye pupils don't dilate beyond 6 mm in the dark.

A 7x42 Swaro SLC neu ( as long as they're available ) might be the right choice. The FOV is better, the focus wheel doesn't stiffen up in the cold, and they are WP. And they have rain-shedding coatings, a welcome feature in the unpredictable weather conditions I'm likely to encounter in my country.
The 7x mag will be better too, providing a more stable image.

I'm drifting far off-topic, here, since it's supposed to be about Canon's IS bins, but decision making runs through all brands.

Best regards,

Ronald
 
About the optics of the Canon 10x30 IS: they're good. The 10x30's give me the most satisfying views I've ever experienced in any bin I've owned, including alpha's ( Zeiss 7x42 FL, Leica 10x32 BN, Swarovski 8x30 SLC ). That's what makes it hard to upgrade to the 10x42 L IS; considerably more weight, and quite expensive.

I'm always pleasantly surprised by my 10x30 every time I use them. And it's even more amusing to give them to folks who haven't used IS before (or seen good edge performance).

They do have (lateral) CA issues and of course are not sealed against the weather or the dust. They could fix that and do a redesign with ED objectives.

Come on Canon ... we need a 10x30 L IS in a "weather resistant" enclosure (i.e. like the 50mm bins just add a plate in front of the moving objectives and perhaps a couple of gaskets). They could be the perfect bin!
 
I'm always pleasantly surprised by my 10x30 every time I use them. And it's even more amusing to give them to folks who haven't used IS before (or seen good edge performance).

They do have (lateral) CA issues and of course are not sealed against the weather or the dust. They could fix that and do a redesign with ED objectives.

Come on Canon ... we need a 10x30 L IS in a "weather resistant" enclosure (i.e. like the 50mm bins just add a plate in front of the moving objectives and perhaps a couple of gaskets). They could be the perfect bin!

I couldn't agree more! Great little bins!
I dropped mine twice already, and may I say, not in a shy way, and they are sweet as ever! They are quite tough, and I use them with great pleasure along with the 18x50's.

A waterproof ED version with water repelling coatings on oculars and objectives would definitely be something I'd spend money on.

Now that the Dutch football team plays Spain in the final on Sunday, I've replaced the strap on the 10x30's by an orange scarf. That's as far as I'll go,
I won't be wearing any orange baggy trousers or a ridiculous orange hat.

Best regards, hup Holland hup,

Ronald
 
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