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Alan Manson

KwaZulu-Natal birder
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White-vented Myna

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White-vented Myna is used for Acridotheres javanicus (by H&M 03, IOC and Opus), and for Acridotheres grandis (by Clements 07&08 and S&M 96).

Acridotheres javanicus is called:
Javan Myna -- Clements 07&08
White-vented Myna -- H&M 03, IOC (and Opus); S&M 96 has it as a subspecies of A. cinereus (Pale-bellied Myna)

Acridotheres grandis is called:
White-vented Myna -- Clements 07&08 and S&M 96
Great Myna -- H&M 03, IOC (and Opus)

What do local field guides use?

Possibly best for Opus to use Javan Myna for javanicus and Great Myna for grandis, and have a diambiguation page for White-vented Myna??
 
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By our consensus policy, it should go as follows:

A. javanicus is recognized by Clements and H&M - so we have an article for it. As for common name, again, consensus. Clements and H&M disagree, so S&M is 1st tiebreaker. BUT, since it doesn't accept the species, IOC is looked to as 2nd tiebreaker. SO, A. javanicus should be White-vented Myna. BUTTTT, we then have the issue of A. grandis S&M tiebreaker calling THAT White-vented Myna.

What a headache. I agree with Javan and Great as common names and having a disambig page for White-vented.
 
Oh dear. Grandis is called White-vented Myna by Rasmussen and also by Inskipp (as cinereus).
Mac Kinnon has Javan Myna for javanicus.

I agree with your plan and there is definitely need for a disambig page.

André
 
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